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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Original Message   Apr 29, 2008 10:31 am
Hi all,

Following is a link to a news article regarding the up and down sides for Electrolux during this year's first quarter.

http://www.centredaily.com/business/technology/story/553091.html

Best,

Venson

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #11   May 5, 2008 9:11 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Venson:

I agree that people are cutting back on many expenditures which ultimately affect the home decor and lifestyle.  Just to pay gas and food coats.  This impacts and affects manufacturers of high price, high end products like autos, appliances, clothes etc.  We've seen some companies close, stores shuttered, and bankruptcy filings.  Sure, there's more to come.  I think AB Electrolux's intro in the USA is an uphill battle.  The timing is bad.  If the economy were hitting on all/most cylinders, the success would be more likely.  But with the current economic environment, about the only thing the new appliances at BEST BUY will do is look good and need dusting every week.

Now, if Kelly Rippa wants to accompany the BEST BUY delivery truck and installers to my house for my purchases, I might reconsider. 

Carmine D.



Carmine,

I think this answers your question about my thinking.  If the economy is good the consumer will pay more for a vac. 

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #12   May 5, 2008 1:21 pm
HS:

I knew you would respond in that manner using my post.  Thank you.

I think Mole hit the nail on the head about vacuums and price.  Most vacuum buyers go to big box stores to buy a vacuum that lasts a few years, then dispose and buy new again.  Regardless of the state of the economy.  Those who buy quality vacuums from independent vacuum stores will do so in good times/bad.  Why?  Because in bad times, they'll have the quality vacuum repaired and continue to use it.  In good times, they'll buy another new quality vacuum by trading up/gifting away the old to a family member.

Now for high priced vacuums in big box stores:  In bad times: you got it.  They ain't gonna sell.  Dyson, electrolux, and whatever other brand you put into a big box store with a high price.  Read halo!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #13   May 5, 2008 2:04 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I knew you would respond in that manner using my post.  Thank you.

I think Mole hit the nail on the head about vacuums and price.  Most vacuum buyers go to big box stores to buy a vacuum that lasts a few years, then dispose and buy new again.  Regardless of the state of the economy.  Those who buy quality vacuums from independent vacuum stores will do so in good times/bad.  Why?  Because in bad times, they'll have the quality vacuum repaired and continue to use it.  In good times, they'll buy another new quality vacuum by trading up/gifting away the old to a family member.

Now for high priced vacuums in big box stores:  In bad times: you got it.  They ain't gonna sell.  Dyson, electrolux, and whatever other brand you put into a big box store with a high price.  Read halo!

Carmine D.



I know several Dyson owners who live in homes costing 1 - 2 Million $.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #14   May 5, 2008 5:57 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I know several Dyson owners who live in homes costing 1 - 2 Million $.



HS:

I know several HOOVER and DIRT DEVIL vacuum owners too who live in expensive homes costing a million and more.  And some persons who live in Section 8 housing who use and like dysons.  It's irrelevant to "most buyers" who shop at the big box retailers who are cutting back now on high price purchases so they can buy food and gas and make their mortgage payments [read survive].

Big box retailers want to sell new vacuums every year.  These are commonly called the disposable vacuums not the repairable ones.  If vacuums sit on the shelf unsold, they take up space.  Retailers NOW  [read hard economic times and people not spending for high cost items] prefer less expensive vacuums that sell quickly. [Look at the big box retailers' advertised sales in the weeklies].  Not $500 plus vacuums that don't sell in the bad economic times at the big box stores. 

I said that a few posts up.  Mole said it awhile back.  You agreed with us.  Hard not to.  Common sense and real life. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #15   May 9, 2008 12:52 pm
I see my man Rege and his lovely cohost Kelly are gifting away Electrolux appliances to their audience members and TV viewers. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #16   May 17, 2008 2:22 am
Electrolux launches a "Green" vacuum.  Story here.


Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #17   May 17, 2008 11:55 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Electrolux launches a "Green" vacuum.  Story here.

OH MY.  There's going to be a lawsuit very soon, James is not going to let this one go.  For anyone who doesn't remember the ReCyclone (a remanufactured DC02 that was around circa-1998), let me tell you about it.  It was in fact the world's FIRST recycled vacuum cleaner; the ONLY new components were the cord, switch, and motor.  The manual was printed on 100% recycled paper, the box was 100% recycled cardboard, and the machine was placed in a burlap bag within the box (no polystyrene packaging).  Ironic that James could actually make his "green" vacuum, well, green, and Electrolux can only make it black. 

Get ready, folks, it's coming.  There's gonna be a dustup in the old town tonight...

-MH
Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #18   May 17, 2008 12:05 pm
And did you notice the "healthy, hygienic, and environmentally friendly dust and dirt disposal" is none other than a *non-micro* bag made out of 100% cellulose?  How is that environmentally friendly to make a vacuum bag by cutting down trees, and not a good one either that only holds 3 cups of dust?  Talk about vacuuming for 10 minutes.  That washable HEPA filter was a must because all the dirt is going to leak out, it will have to be washed at least after every bag change.  I hope they were smart enough to put it in front of the motor and not behind it, though considering what the machine is so far, I somehow doubt it. 

All they did was take one of those awful, crappy old Eureka Oxygens and make it out of SOME recycled plastic (keyword 55%), it's not even 100% recycled like the ReCyclone.  I bet James is having a good laugh over this one.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #19   May 17, 2008 3:10 pm
Motorhead wrote:
OH MY.  There's going to be a lawsuit very soon, James is not going to let this one go. 
-MH



Hello MH:

Do you recall a similar pronouncement made in June 2004 when HOOVER intro'ed the FUSION at Wal*mart after the fall out over the DC07 All Carpets?  I believe the exact words of the poster were:  "A big legal action by dyson all wrapped up in a big red bow."  Then the alleged infringements were for dyson's bagless bin components and cyclone technology, if I recall.  Nothing ever happened over the matter despite repeated mention by the poster.  And the HOOVER FUSION went on to have a long run at WM and Sam's Club and still today as the Mach.

Is this the same?  Another wolf cry with no wolf anywhere around to be seen. 

BTW, from what University/College did you get your law degree?

Carmine D.

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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #20   May 17, 2008 6:35 pm

Carmine,

Dyson v. Maytag, did it happen?  Yes.

 

  • Lawsuit filed on 6/5/05
  • Jury trial demanded.
  • Dyson claims 4 of its patents were infringed by Hoover (Walmart/Fusion)
    • Patent’s:  4643748, 4826515, 4853008, 5858038

DIB


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