Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Mole,

Why do so many buy Dyson if all they care about is price.  It is one of the most expensive.  Why would anyone buy a $700 electric broom (Oreck)?

I can't answer the first authoritatively but a famous line from BT Barnum comes to mind.

The last is an easy one, HS.  Even I know the answer to it.  Because it [Oreck electric broom that cleans and grooms equal to a full sized upright] comes with a 21 year guaranty and free maintenance every year for life.  How many brooms do you still own and use after 21 years?  Think about how many one purchases in a lifetime.  What is the total cost?  Do they come with free maintenance for life and a 21 year guaranty?

At the turn of the 20th century, carpet sweepers were sold by comparing them to the cost of brooms.  A broom cost 25-50 cents.  A carpet sweeper usually from $1-$4 depending on the type of wood used.  Carpet sweepers according to the claims lasted indefinitely.  As opposed to brooms that wore out.

Carmine D.

If the customer really needs and upright for their application and are shopping oreck against dyson most places that sell both will sell the oreck,and keep the jobs in this country,B.T.W. central vacuum systems cost less than a DYSON or oreck....................

mole

Mole:

Sorry folks to get off subject.  And perhaps it's not off subject.  But is the subject.  Mole's observation about the vacuum industry, especially independents, is honest.  The indy dealers [thousands nationwide] sell Oreck-s in large part because they are USA made and have 45 plus years of history and sales success.  Big box retailers sell the foreign competition.  The Oreck is and always has been a top tier contender lasting a lifetime.  The big box retailers sell disposables. 

Getting back to dyson: Perhaps the reason dyson loses market share every year in it's own country of origin, the UK, is because the UK consumers disapprove of James Dyson's decision to out source jobs to foreign contractors in Malaysia.  Maybe they believe it is a socially irresponsible business decision.  Predicated on profit motives.  

Maybe that's the reason for Mr. Dyson promoting an Engineering school in the UK.  A way to give back to the UK [and try to gain back market share from the UK consumers who now shun dyson products].  Something to ponder?

Carmine D.

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Why cant the UK site or brochure be more informative.

I'll make the same observation [not theory] about the dysons from Bestvacuum.com as bestbuys.com.  ALL the dysons, including the latest and greatest DC24 and 25, are discounted from MSRP.  Many substantially.  Except one:  The least:  DC16 still $149.  There is even a disclaimer excluding the DC16 for discounts from MSRP.   Did you see it?  Interesting?  Absurd?  Laughable?  All the above?  I'll go with all the above.  iMacDaddy nailed it right.  Dyson is scrubbing the DC16.  Gave up on improving the run time. 

Two different sites on two different days and same observation to make.  All dysons are discounted from MSRP but one.  Why?  It's the worse of the dysons.  But the DC16 is listed at $149.  The original and full MSRP.  Why? 

Try this for an answer.  Dyson USA is discounting the DC16 by $100 with the sale of any new dyson.  Put the word out to retailers not to discount the DC16.  How long will it be until the few retailers stuck with these do the same as dyson.  Or better?  They have to do something to compete with dyson and get rid of these.  They are not going to increase in run time based on increased time sitting on the shelves.  The longer these lay unsold, the more difficult they are to sell.  Especially with the run time specified and the star ratings of the users.

Unless dyson agreed with the retailers to take all these back for credit?  Like the DC11.

Carmine D.

Thank you Dusty for using observation and not theory.  Here's the crux of the matter.  All the dyson dealers in the past here bragged of dyson's MAP and price supports for product MSRP.  You too.  MOLE and I said it wouldn't last.  All you need do is check the past vacuum history for big box retailers.  In the big box venue, these retailers would force dyson to drop prices and like it.  Or else.  You and all the dyson fans argued that it would never happen with dyson.  NEVER.  Maybe on the old discontinued models [MAYBE] but not the new dyson stuff.  WRONG.   Discounts on everything dyson, new and old.   Except the DC16 which will probably get scrubbed by dyson in the USA after they are all given away. 

Dyson fans flip flop now and put dyson in the same category as all the big box vacuums.  Hello!  Thank you!  Flip flop, flip flop when will it stop?  You're late to the right side of the debate.  MOLE and I told you this years ago.  Didn't listen.  Rookies!

Carmine D.