Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

The launch of the DC23 from the Canadian website is up.

Dyson DC23

I spoke with one of the Dyson phone operators today, and she said that this model is going to be sold through only independent vacuum shops, in addition to up-market online retailers like the one I hyperlinked a fews posts back. From the information she had, she saw no signs of a DDM being featured in the DC23.

iMacDaddy:  Thanks for the call to Dyson and the post.

 

Anyone:  I myself do not care for the DC21 ball/power head due to its heavy weight and the bulky and somewhat heavy connector fitting at the end of the wand.  The DC23 Canada uses the DC21’s power nozzle on the DC23, it will probably be the same for the U.S., but I hope not.  I must admit I do compare my DC05 in weight to the subsequent Dyson canisters.  I’ve posted these weights before but here they are again, the combined weights for the hose, wand and power nozzle on; DC05 - 5.6lbs. vs. DC21 – 8.6lbs.  Three pounds is a lot of additional weight.  In addition the DC05's wand can separate from the hose where the DC21 and presumably the DC22/23 cannot.  Am I the only one who thinks separating the hose from the wand is what the general public wants and expects?        DIB

Hi DIB

I believe you can take the hose of the telescope wand on the DC21, DC22 and DC23.  The tools then fit straight onto the hose end!

DC18

DC18 wrote:

Hey DC,

For sure the straight suction models had the ability to detach the hose from the wand.  But the photos on the Japanese DDM DC22 Motorhead showed the wand and hose unable to disconnect, just like the DC21 Stowaway.  I for one dislike immensely my Stowaway’s single piece hose and wand.        DIB

Sorry DIB I forgot the DC21 (same in the UK) doesn't have this due to the motorhead powered nozzle!  Also our DC23 in the UK is just suction with air driven power nozzles not motor driven hence you can remove the hose and wand.  I forgot the US version of the DC23 is power driven!

DC18

DC18 wrote:
No sorry's necessary.  Forgetting is easy to do, just ask me.         DIB

You 3 , Technologists have the greatest amount of the most useless knowledge of any one I know,

Could any of you please explain to the forum what any of this technobabble means to the average person.

  MOLE

Hi everyone,

Heard more on the DC23 today.  I called my local Dyson dealer to inquire about them and he said he had just received a shipment of DC23s last Friday.  Unfortunately, the US version does not have the digital motor, though he did mention that the motor is different than the DC21.  It does have Core separation (though the final stage is not in a series like I thought before; the cyclones are in parallel like the other models), and the telescoping wand (which does disconnect from the hose; it is worth noting that this is a current change in the production run and the first 10,000 or so do not disconnect as they use DC21 wand assemblies) is multiple-position.  The Motorhead is also slightly different from the DC21's version, with a bumper in the front.

But what a letdown.  These features, while an improvement over the DC21, do not justify the hefty $800 pricetag; if this machine was priced along the lines of the DC17 it would make much more sense.  If I'm going to pay upwards of $600 for a vacuum, it had better have one feature that stands out from the competition (in this case it *would have been* the brushless DDM).  Best of luck to the dealers trying to sell these possible white elephants at $800, I think the only way they will be able to is if they lower the price drastically (but still enough to recoup their initial investment) to around $600 or so.  Really, this suggested retail is all about profits; as I was told these are $400 wholesale.  How much $#%* money does a dealer need to make on a single machine these days!?

May as well get a brushless Rainbow...

-MH

Motorhead,

Many thanks.  I read and listen to all things Dyson especially the hard to come by stuff.  Keep the information coming.        DIB

Motorhead wrote:
Hi Motorhead,

We've had the DC23's in stock for a couple weeks now selling at $649 for the motorhead and $749 for the motorhead animal. The DC21 which is $599 hasn't moved since we received the new product.  It's been no problem selling up and all though we've been trying to sell down to DC21's (to reduce inventory) we've yet to have anyone save the $50 bucks and go that route.  Dyson customers are a strange bunch...they know what they want and price does not seem to phase them in the least.  How else do you explain paying $30-$50 for "Genuine" Dyson attachments?

Dusty