Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Looks like CHEVROLET is going to release the new retro CAMARO soon, I hope that the s.s package is available with the ls3 motor,. And for the dodge camp the retro challenger is out with the HEMI it's a real tuff looking ride.

These cars should bring excitement back to the world of muscle cars.

Who cares about vacuum cleaners...........

MOLE

Yes, the dyson DC11 cann.  All I wanted for $50, new in the boxes.  I posted when BEST BUY had them on weekly clearance aisle marking them down more each week until they sold.  I turned them down.  They're collectibles now.  I think thay actually gave some away.

Don't forget the Electrolux line which BEST BUY offered to me for 20 percent on the dollar in the spring of 2006.  Only to bring them back in the winter at full price and still. Why? The CR reviews [I think I mentioned that to you several times.  You keep forgetting.]

BISSELL HEALTHY HOME, HOOVER WT 2, and Elite Rewind are the bagless brand uprights still at COSTCO now.  Not dysons.  With a bag, Eureka Smart Vac.  Did I mention that BISSELL HH ties and/or beats all the dysons, save the $550 DC17 Absolute Animal [according to CR]?  Wonder if that had an impact on the COSTCO decision to scrup dysons?  What do you think?

This is old stuff HS, my man.  You and your dysons are going down.  You can't stop it.  

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

If your foresight is so good why didn't you buy the Electrolux?  They still do not rate so good by owners.

Dyson would never be great in COSTCO.  They do not sell hi end if you ever noticed.  A wise shopper can avoid COSTO and get better bargains.

You know my sentiments about CR ratings so I will not bore the others explaining.  Did I mention that the HH did not perform as well as the DC07 in my home?  I think that COSTCO shoppers are looking for bargains and will continue to buy the entry level stuff that they sell and that they can afford.

I hear an echo as you continue to fall.  I have stopped it so far.

I didn't take BEST BUY up on the offer in spring 2006 because we were in the midst of a move across country.  [This is now the 6th time I told you].  Maybe we can make it 10?

Dyson and COSTCO agreed to 3 Exclusive models in 5 years: DC07, 14, and 15.  The 15 was the worse and didn't last a season at COSTCO for $519.  Didn't sell.  Dumped in early 2006.  The DC07 was a much better seller and subsequently replaced by the DC14 Exclusive for $469.  It was not as good a seller.  The reason that the DC18 with the 3 extra tools is now on clearance for $399 at COSTCO stores.  

The BISSELL HEALTHY HOME [still at COSTCO] beat out all the dysons in the CR ratings save the DC17 for $550.  All the HOOVER WT's bagged and bagless beat out the dysons [COSTCO has the WT-2] save the DC17.  The only HOOVER dyson beats is the HOOVER Elite Rewind [also at COSTCO for $89].  But this $89 HOOVER beats all the dysons in the Pet Hair removal category.  And it ties the DC17 [best rated dyson] in the Pet Hair Removal with a Very Good.  AND unlike the dysons [even the DC17], the HOOVER Elite for $89 has a cordwinder, headlight, and a turbo tool on board.  Do you think these are features that vacuum buyers who shop at the big box retailers like ?  Probably.  No doubt the reason that other retailers sell the model too.  And HOME DEPOT has an exclusive Elite called the HOOVER Legacy Elite for $90.   That's what's selling my man.  Things are tight.  People don't have alot of money to blow on high price mediocre bagless vacuums.  That's what dysons are.

COSTCO shoppers, averaging $70,000 plus per year, are savvy.  They aren't fooled by higher prices. 

Did I mention that COSTCO stores sell Consumer Reports magazines.  At 30 percent off the newsstand price.  Do you think COSTCO management actual reads the magazine too?  From the vacuums still standing, I'd say most definitely.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Well, you're right there my man.  BEST BUY stock price took a drubbing this past week.  Down over $10 a share in one week.  From $49 plus to $39.  Whew!  Hold your breadth.  Hang on to your hat.  It's stock price is down over 25 percent for the year.  Investors are not going to be happy.  That's a big hit my main man.  Expect drastic changes to come from BEST BUY.  JUST suggested that car dealers can give away new vacuums with their car sales to jump start car sales.  Maybe BEST BUY stores can give away new automobiles with the purchase of its high price vacuums? 

Wal*Mart sales for February 2008 were looking good.  Exceeded analysts expectations.  Led and elevated the retail sales for the rest of the retailers who report monthly sales [recall these are the ones doing okay since the ones doing poorly have stopped reporting monthly].  WM stock price is hanging tough at $49.  Up for the year.  And it RAISED it's quarterly dividend 25 percent giving investors back $3 BILLION dollars of profits.  Go figure.  Wasn't there a poster on one of the now defunct vacuum Forums who said Wal*Mart was the retail stock to buy?  I'm almost positive I read that by him.  

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Hello Mole:

You're exactly right about the worthless dollars.  The risk that the Fed faces monetarily by cutting the Fed funds rate, on which all other US intererst rates are gauged, is lessening the value of US dollars here and abroad.  Fueling inflation.  But, 2008 is an election year.  Despite the Fed's supposed independence, the Fed Chief is a politician first and an economist second.   

Last week the European Central Bankers convened and decided not to cut the ECB rate below 4 percent.  This goes contrary to Ben Bernanke's actions in the USA to cut rates.  Bernanke on one side of the pond is fighting the recession by fueling inflation.  The European Bankers are fighting inflation and ignoring the recession.  No doubt the reason that the Euro hit an all time high against the dollar last week:  $1.59 US to the Euro. 

There will be another rate cut in the next week by the Fed to bring the Fed Funds rate below 3 percent and another Administration stimulus package next year for Americans.  In addition to the one this year.  Both are inflationary.   It's going to get very interesting in the months and years ahead.

Carmine D.

I cant get excited by phony "retro" cars and dont understand why anyone who likes REAL vintage Camaros or Challengers would be doing back flips over a cheaply made over priced plastic imitation with blocky goofy looking styling that loosely apes the originals.

I dont give a damn how fast it is,if its ugly who cares! besides who needs 400hp to drive 15 miles an hour on the freeway?!,as it is we have all the idiots with their jap cars that think they are speed racer who run around killing people,so the cops have cracked down on all that crap...now if you even do a burn out its a thousand dollar ticket in some areas!

I'm sick off all these blocky plastic pseudo retro cars, Its just another sign to me of how creatively bankrupt our current soceity is...we arent producing any future classics,(cars,movies,etc) so we destroy the past with these poorly conceived knock offs.

The only people who buy these things are tattooed idiots with nose rings who put 68" western pioneer wagon wheels on their rides. About all I can say is that people today have very poor taste and will buy anything.there is seemingly nothing  lowbrow enough!.

Rap music,reality shows,Paris Hilton,hog rings,baggy pants and tatoos,plastic mustangs and gay priuses...thats our legacy! Aint life grand?.

When Chrysler came out with its 1957 Forward look cars,there was truly cause for excitement!, here  were futuristic dream cars that the working man could own.

Fenders darted forward,fins soared,rooflines were lowered,torsion aire handling and shifting gears was done by push button! Life was exciting and new,people wondered at the future!

These cars were refreshing,daring and NEW!,they were the product of a better time.they werent tired poorly translated designs from the past.they were NEW!

I am simply amazed at the level of talent and creativity we had in the past....NOW we get fed mangled up tidbits of the past that insult the originals.

The best of today cant compete with the average of the past.

JimRockford wrote:

Well I'm off to the Tattoo/Piercing palor just as soon as I finish vacuuming out the retro with my Dyson.

Now if this wasn't a troll post, I've never seen one.

Can't find much to argue about with most of that rant!

As long as our companies are run by a type of "Financial Aristocracy" and/or "Industrial Family Dynasties" we will never have the drive to create better products for the masses. Economic policy of our Gov't is shaped by the highest corporate campaign donors not what's good for the country. And as I've said before Creative people in corporations are driven out. They are dangerous to status quo thinking. Also type "A" personalities do not take being called wrong very well, especially if it's the truth!

Somewhere in our corporate history "bean counters" became the voice over innovators.

Most people tend to associate with like minds so it stands to reason if creative people are shunned it leaves only non-creative people to run our companies.

J.R. makes an excellent point about what this society has become. I can unserstand where he's coming from. Some of us have been around long enough to remember the good ol days,but must ask yourself this question were they really that good? New technology does have some real benefits for the human race.

Is it better to work hard or work smart?

MOLE

B.T.W. MY 4TH GENERATION CAMARO IS THE FASTEST, BEST HANDLEING,RATTLEFREE , CAMARO EVER.I also have 69 Z/28.

MOLE

mole wrote:

Hey Mole,

Have to say that you and J.R. make excellent points.  I owned many of those collectable MOPARS before they were valuable.  I do not know if those were better days or if I was just younger and more care free.  I am sure my parents felt then as I do now.

As much as I like the older muscle cars I do not miss the maintenance required to keep them in top running order.  A lot of the fantacies back then are reality today whether J.R. thinks so, or not.

Remember when the Hemi's and 427 Vettes were the ones to beat.  The new Vette will dust them.  Even a die hard MOPAR nut has to admit this.

I think I could enjoy a little time reminiscing with Carmine about the old days.  I know he could give me some very interesting stories.  Some may even be true.

Best wishes to all.