Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

We are in the very beginning of discussions on to what vacuums/products to place on our website. We will have the full Miele-Sebo-Bosch Line up with a smattering of other machines we feel are either unique or fit into a good price point like the Royal Procision 3050, the Panasonic MC-CG973, Sanataire S782 and Mighty-Mite. Any other suggestions? And Why.

Thanks guys, have some fun!

Lucky

mole wrote:

Mole:

That's the reason the GE bagged cann sells so well for Wal*Mart. 

You have to have a mix from low end to high: Uprights and canns.  For the budget buyers, who don't want to buy a rebuilt, you offer the decent low end new: HOOVER TEMPO and/or Eureka Smart Vac, bagged.  Increase the markup by offering the extended service plan.  This is a last resort to keep from losing the customers.

For others who may be budget minded and bagless, offer the refurb dysons at competitive prices.  Again, increase the mark up by extending the warranty, to compete with all the dyson refurbs.

For the quality minded but limited budget: The rebuilts; you know the brands and models.

For the quality minded who can spend: The Miele, SEBO, RICCAR.  The top tier store brands.

Add the lightweights for those inclined: DC18; Oreck Deluxe, RICCAR/Simplicity.

DIdn't you quote me a decent cann for under $200 that is sold by vacuum stores?  I can go buy a truck load right now and ship them to you if you like?

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:
Dusty I do sell the Air purifiers and actually use one in the bedroom at night. I own the stinkiest Gordon Setter on the face of the planet and he sleeps in the BR. Does a good job I must say on Odor and Dust. The price point IS high but there is value in that you only need one system with the 5 features Odor/Hepa/Nano-Silver/Ionizer/Anti-Bacteria vs other brands with less. They don't fly out the door but I do sell some. Mostly the smaller version. Replacement filters are also pricey. They are soon to come out with a version to be sold in any retail store. Bothered me at first but it will make the brand name on other products an easier sell once the general public commonly sees the Brand Name.

Lucky1 wrote:
Box retailers have been a sticky point for me.  I find consumers do lots of research on this product (more so than vacuums) and in their travels they notice that the Simplicity is the same as the Sharp Plasma Cluster...except the Sharp can be had for far less $$'s.  I like the technology behind the product but wish they'd do a redesign so it looks a little more unique in the market place.

Lucky1 wrote:

Wouldn't be on my list of sellers.  Too pervasive among the big box retailers.  Unless you can cut the price or offer something more, you can't compete with the big dogs on price.  They'll undercut you.

BTW, what's your vacuum sales and experience, if you don't mind me asking?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hi Carmine, The G.E.or cloned eureka canister,sells for how much?is it under $200.00,with a decent power head.Yes i know it's been at walmart for a long time now.

This machine i believe takes the cn1 bags,either under the G.E. label or the eureka cn2 bags under the eureka label.It is a decent machine but will not last very long.

Most vac shops sell the either the SANITAIE blue line/or red line.Now these uprights such as an 886  is vey hard to beat .Its vey common knowledge amoung the vacuum guy's that SANITAIRE is the best bang for the buck.It's really too bad that HOOVER has really given up on their commercial line for the vac shop's.I really liked selling the 334 commercial machine,and the GUARDSMAN upright.There are many good uprights out there for under $200.00,with the canisters it real hard to find a quality machine in that price range.

As far as air systems go ,i believe this market is over saturated already,and the consumer that wanted one already bought them. Sort of like wood stoves.......

MOLE

mole wrote:

Hello Mole:

When the budget minded call for a cann and spew off about the WM GE, here's an option:

http://www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/vacdetails.asp?DBID=1775&ID=Fuller+Brush+FBPT%2D2+Canister

I heard that these canns are made in the same factory as the RICCAR/SIMPLICITY canns in South Korea.  The local dealer in NLV shoots this cann model for less than $200 when the cann buyers can't /won't go for the higher price RICCAR/SIMPLICITY canns.  I haven't checked it out closely.  It's on my list of things to do. 

I would add this one to my sales venue to compete against the WM GE which has been around for over 8 years and still selling well.

Carmine D.

Thanks Carmine, Another thing thats interesting is why would a dealer sell 2 lines that are very similar to each other [example BOSCH,MEELAH] or riccar and simplicity,

Buying and promoting but being goverend by them and being dictated how and how much they have to be sold for doesnt sit well with most owners.Minimum machine orders just so so you can keep your dealers status[diamond dealers],Been there done that,My advice to the dealers would be DONT GET TRAPPED BY ANY OF THESE CORPORATE [PIMPS].......

MOLE

mole wrote:

I second and third that motion.  My store. My business.  No one but N-O-O-N-E tells [told] me what to do.  

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

That point of view is just fine by me but what can the consumer do to help promote it.

Venson

I'm VERY new to the Biz...Selling appliances and vacs for about 4 years. My shop is only 5 Months old. Hope you experienced guys don't come down too hard on me! But how many times have you said there are no new guys coming into the field???? Right...

I'm in North Jersey so my market is somewhat different than out west. More call for canisters than uprights. Carrying Miele, Sebo and Bosch seem to complement each other rather than how you think them might not. Once again there is more Money in this area than most. I couldn't tell you where a Walmart is. We do have a Sam's and a Cosco somewhere but I don't think my buyer would shop there for too many things.

I do feel it's better spend my effort to sell a higher priced, better machine, than many lower priced ones BUT that said I do have to pay rent. Most of the cheeper vacs are really crap. I don't want a customer coming back every week with a problem on a vac I made $50 on.

The Fuller is not that great.

The Royal 3050 seems to be good can for the price. But I'd like something in the $450-$350 range that's got a good PH. Maybe the Sanitaire series might be worthwile, thanks for the suggestions!