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CarmineD
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #10 Mar 7, 2008 7:44 pm |
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Which Dysons would you offer? ( IF YOU WERE TO) LOL
New dyson vacuums are not selling in the current market and will continue not to sale as the economic conditions worsen. Too expensive and the big box retailers are suffering huge sales declines as consumers put the brakes on discretionary spending [read high price vacuums].
Refurb dysons at low prices may be lucrative. You do the refurbing and you guarantee. Most of the refurbs for sale now shorten the warranty period drastically. You extend yours just enough to get the edge and beat out the competition in dyson refurbs. Carmine D.
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dusty
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #11 Mar 8, 2008 12:18 am |
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Thanks Guys!
I am a Simplicity Dealer but we are forbidden to do internet sales and Phone orders are list price only. It may sound bad but it does work in the Brick & Mortar Indie Dealer best interest. I am hoping to be different than the others in that I feel a buyers approach should be Flooring Surface as the first requirement, Price second and Brand third. I hope to be able to cross reference easily as the consumer navigates through the site. Most sites go Brand first. I've gotten enough people coming into the shop saying they bought a machine online with a Turbo brush... that they latter realize is not suited for their home. As far being a better price or offering incentives that's mostly Taboo. But as a retailer, once again it allows a Mom & Pop to compete.
Funny as a coincidence, My order for a Perfect Electrolux clone was just delivered moments before I went online!
Air purifiers are a great idea. I'm an authorized Blueair dealer already. I will check their internet policy.
What about the Electrolux/Eureka series. I know they have contact & hose problems but they are in a good price point and get a good CR review. I'm really torn on this one.
Which Dysons would you offer? ( IF YOU WERE TO) LOL We've had good luck with the Eureka 6500 air extreme (bag model only, bagless is nasty). Parts are cheap and it's a pretty full featured machine for the money. Dysons are easy, DC18's are our big mover for carpets and we just received the DC20 which is nice for bare floors. We always get calls for a bagless canister with no powerhead so this machine fits the bill nicely. I would still put Simplicity on your website, local users will use it for info and make their way into your store to purchase even if there is no pricing online. Off topic a tad, I'm curious to know if you sell the Simplicity air purifiers and your opinion of them. We've carried them at times but find they're not as price competitive with other brands as we'd like. Dusty
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HARDSELL
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #12 Mar 8, 2008 9:20 am |
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New dyson vacuums are not selling in the current market and will continue not to sale as the economic conditions worsen. Too expensive and the big box retailers are suffering huge sales declines as consumers put the brakes on discretionary spending [read high price vacuums]. Refurb dysons at low prices may be lucrative. You do the refurbing and you guarantee. Most of the refurbs for sale now shorten the warranty period drastically. You extend yours just enough to get the edge and beat out the competition in dyson refurbs. Carmine D. You have told us for at least 3 years that Dysons were not selling for 1 reason or another. They remained #1 all the time. I told you that the Hoover Z would never make it. It flopped Damn, I am good.
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mole
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #13 Mar 8, 2008 9:49 am |
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Carmine,where are you going to find a decent canister vacuum with a good power head [new] to sell at $100.00 to $200.00. You tell me where these are and I'LL buy them . Please dont tell me the HOOVER BAGLESS THINGY WITH THE QUAD POWERHEAD. I would say these guy's are in business to make a profit, You know this cannot be done with the machines you have reccomened. The only thing online shoppers care about is what it costs [bargain hunters],dont care about back up service,warrantys,parts availability,etc. They will get bombarded with information seekers,that wont buy from them.But will thank them for their time. I would sell bags,filters,attachments,etc. this is where the money is made. MOLE
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CarmineD
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #14 Mar 8, 2008 2:06 pm |
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Carmine,where are you going to find a decent canister vacuum with a good power head [new] to sell at $100.00 to $200.00. You tell me where these are and I'LL buy them . Please dont tell me the HOOVER BAGLESS THINGY WITH THE QUAD POWERHEAD. I would say these guy's are in business to make a profit, You know this cannot be done with the machines you have reccomened. MOLE
Mole:
That's the reason the GE bagged cann sells so well for Wal*Mart. You have to have a mix from low end to high: Uprights and canns. For the budget buyers, who don't want to buy a rebuilt, you offer the decent low end new: HOOVER TEMPO and/or Eureka Smart Vac, bagged. Increase the markup by offering the extended service plan. This is a last resort to keep from losing the customers. For others who may be budget minded and bagless, offer the refurb dysons at competitive prices. Again, increase the mark up by extending the warranty, to compete with all the dyson refurbs. For the quality minded but limited budget: The rebuilts; you know the brands and models. For the quality minded who can spend: The Miele, SEBO, RICCAR. The top tier store brands. Add the lightweights for those inclined: DC18; Oreck Deluxe, RICCAR/Simplicity. DIdn't you quote me a decent cann for under $200 that is sold by vacuum stores? I can go buy a truck load right now and ship them to you if you like? Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #17 Mar 9, 2008 7:58 am |
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What about the Electrolux/Eureka series. I know they have contact & hose problems but they are in a good price point and get a good CR review. I'm really torn on this one.
Wouldn't be on my list of sellers. Too pervasive among the big box retailers. Unless you can cut the price or offer something more, you can't compete with the big dogs on price. They'll undercut you.
BTW, what's your vacuum sales and experience, if you don't mind me asking? Carmine D.
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mole
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #18 Mar 9, 2008 12:08 pm |
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Mole: That's the reason the GE bagged cann sells so well for Wal*Mart. DIdn't you quote me a decent cann for under $200 that is sold by vacuum stores? I can go buy a truck load right now and ship them to you if you like? Carmine D.
Hi Carmine, The G.E.or cloned eureka canister,sells for how much?is it under $200.00,with a decent power head.Yes i know it's been at walmart for a long time now.
This machine i believe takes the cn1 bags,either under the G.E. label or the eureka cn2 bags under the eureka label.It is a decent machine but will not last very long. Most vac shops sell the either the SANITAIE blue line/or red line.Now these uprights such as an 886 is vey hard to beat .Its vey common knowledge amoung the vacuum guy's that SANITAIRE is the best bang for the buck.It's really too bad that HOOVER has really given up on their commercial line for the vac shop's.I really liked selling the 334 commercial machine,and the GUARDSMAN upright.There are many good uprights out there for under $200.00,with the canisters it real hard to find a quality machine in that price range. As far as air systems go ,i believe this market is over saturated already,and the consumer that wanted one already bought them. Sort of like wood stoves....... MOLE
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CarmineD
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Re: Open to Suggestions
Reply #19 Mar 9, 2008 12:59 pm |
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Hi Carmine, The G.E.or cloned eureka canister,sells for how much?is it under $200.00,with a decent power head.Yes i know it's been at walmart for a long time now. There are many good uprights out there for under $200.00,with the canisters it real hard to find a quality machine in that price range. As far as air systems go ,i believe this market is over saturated already,and the consumer that wanted one already bought them. Sort of like wood stoves....... MOLE
Hello Mole:
When the budget minded call for a cann and spew off about the WM GE, here's an option: http://www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/vacdetails.asp?DBID=1775&ID=Fuller+Brush+FBPT%2D2+Canister I heard that these canns are made in the same factory as the RICCAR/SIMPLICITY canns in South Korea. The local dealer in NLV shoots this cann model for less than $200 when the cann buyers can't /won't go for the higher price RICCAR/SIMPLICITY canns. I haven't checked it out closely. It's on my list of things to do. I would add this one to my sales venue to compete against the WM GE which has been around for over 8 years and still selling well. Carmine D.
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