Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

• Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
• Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  
• Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  
• For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  
• The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  
• The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 
  

Hi Carmine,in my opinion costco, home cheapo , the buyers cant get the right deal from dyson,you and i both know that price is BIG, these stores only sell on price and price only. How many times have we said that high dollar vacuums and volume department stores are not the venue to sell this product,The honeymoon is over,and hopefully the strong indy's will tell dyson to stick it where the sun dont shine. And the only place left is E-BAY, and the dealers are destroying the prices,lot's of them sell at cost.Will dyson stop it,i dont think so,because the rest have tried and failed,this is where this market is going.........

MOLE

Hi Carmine,

I know Costco does offer the Roomba 550 online but I have not seen it at my local store.  Again, this is not unsual for my Costco.  It's always a little of this, a little bit of that.  Their vacuum display is more an after thought than an actual sales promoting effort.  What I did notice is that that Electrolux toy -- the little stick vac -- is there on sale for $79.99 which is $20 below what it's been pushed for the last year or so.  I'm waiting for the day they finally sell it for the $29.99 it should have been going for in the first place.

Forgot to mention that Costco also sells upper liine Bosch canister online but I have yet to see it at my store.  Are stock decisions a judgement call by way of management store to store? I can accept someone feeling that certain prodcut may not right for their neck of the woods but a lot of people who shop there are not aware of Costco's online accessibility and may be missing out on any number of things they buy if they knew Costco had them.  If you put out just a couple of vacuums to be seen and I walk in, look but don't like them I go elsewhere to buy thinking that's all they had.

I went the other day to look for a decent irong board but there were none.  Turns out they only order them for my store periodically instead of keeping them on hand.

Best,

Venson

Are you not a Dyson Dealer?  You talk as if you are insulated from Dyson's legal arm.

Hello Mole:

You're right.  Ironically, COSTCO customers average a yearly income of $70,000 plus, the highest of all the price club store venues.  It was also one of the retailers, like Wal*Mart, that fared better than most during the holiday season and with January sales.

Carmine D.

Hello Venson:

The COSTCO stores here in North Las Vegas have the full line of the iRobots and the newest 500.  Huge displays for the Roombas.  The Lux Pronto you mentioned and several others you mentioned.  The Bosch vacuums are not in the stores (YET) but available on line.  Dyson is not listed on the COSTCO Web site under vacuums and floorcare.  

Carmine D.

I told that to the HOOVER Branch Manager and Hoover sales rep [the Saltez brothers] in the late 50's when I threw both out of my store literally.  I was an authorized HOOVER sales and service dealer at the time for several years.  Those were the days when HOOVER reigned supreme.  Business was fine without new HOOVER's for several years.  I took in the Westinghouse line.  Then, a new HOOVER Branch Manager took over, Lou Ludivico, and he talked me back into carrying the HOOVER line and I soon became a warranty dealer for HOOVER.  And was for many years.  

The indys don't need the vacuum makers as much as the vacuum makers need the indys. 

Carmine D.

Multi-billionaires need two-faced bad mouthing authorized dealer/repair men?   Hardly!  Indies, aka (typically) small time Mom and Pops need to do what they do best, sell and fix vacuum cleaners.  Taking on billion dollar corporations openly and publicly is nothing short of reckless.        DIB

I would be a dyson dealer just for the parts so I could do the repairs.  I'd only sell one if a customer insisted on buying one.  Dyson probably would have a problem with that and wouldn't sell me parts.  Which is fine.  Too many better and affordable vacuum products on the market to kow tow to one mediocre vacuum maker.

Like HOOVER in the 60's, dyson sold out to the big box retailers in the USA at the expense of the indy's.  Why?  Dyson wants to sell high priced vacuums through big box retailers.  Not through the local vacuum store indy's.  What happened to all the special indy dyson models that would allow you to sell and compete with the big dogs for dyson sales?  Who has them?  Who advertises them?  What happened to the dyson MAP of 10 percent?  Bed Bath and Beyond and Linens-n-Things take off 20 percent regularly.  What does dyson do about it? 

The industry [read big box retail sales] are in a recession now.  High priced vacuums are gathering dust on shelves.  Retailers can't give them away.  COSTCO [with several exclusive dyson models over the years] and HOME DEPOT are looking to drop the dyson line for now at least from their store shelves.  Will other retailers follow suit as the recession gains strength [which the gurus say it is poised to do]? 

The local indy's, who sell dyson parts and do dyson repairs to keep the dyson customers satisfied [clean up the mess as you like to say MOLE], are in the cat bird seat.  What happens if  vacuum indy's like you tell dyson customers to go elsewhere for dyson parts and repairs?  Especially if you didn't make the dyson sales.  How long will the dyson vacuum reliability ratings be good?  Dysons may become collectables, if they are still working properly.  I recall another bagless vacuum called Fantom???  

Carmine D.

I see you are back on your soap box.  How many times have you already fallen off?                                                                                                                                                                                   We know that independents can't survive on sales alone and you want us to believe that ALL BUT DYSON are rarely repaired.  Again I ask.  How have so many independents survived without repairing Dysons?