Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

• Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
• Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  
• Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  
• For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  
• The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  
• The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 
  

MH:

THis is an old [read out-of date] argument that a fine fellow Jim B made years ago on a now defunct Forum.  Long before dyson was raked over the coals for making false claims about "never clogs, never loses suction."  Both of which are no longer used by retailers.

Do you have any new arguments and/or endorsements to make for dyson performance and operation besides word of mouth? 

Carmine D.

MH:

That's certainly more than 2 cents worth.  But I appreciate the response on behalf of your favorite brand dyson and my dear friend HARDSELL. 

Let me deal first and now with the part I excerpted only:

Mohawk is not the carpet maker.  It is my home carpet maker.  Other home buyers may have chosen other brands.  Amenities on the homes like flooring and carpeting are customized according to the home buyers [at least when I bought].  I can provide you the carpet maker which voids its warranty if dysons are used, if you like.  And you can call/research.  It is very well known.  If fact, the good gentleman I quoted in my above post, Jim B., is well aware of the fact and will corroborate it.

The purpose of these monthly builder-contractor meetings [the one my dear Wife and I attended was September 20, 2006 about 3 weeks after purchasing the DC07 pink] is to educate buyers and residents on the new homes [which range now with the depressed housing market for $250,000 to $450,000 plus] about the best  products and ways to prolong the life and usage of their homes.  And ensure the homes are maintained properly and keep their value.  The meetings are still ongoing.  So the messages are repeated in each session.  Floors and rugs are an integral part of the value of the homes.  The builder and the sub contractor warn, and continue to, against the use of dysons on the rugs. 

I will address other points which I take issues in future posts as the time and space permits.

Carmine D.

I said the DC07 and DC14 "will be" discontinued.  NOT "is."  Why?  The clutch in part.  The weak brush roll.  And the undeniable fact that it was designed for European carpets not USA carpets.

Which reminds me.  The DC07 All Carpets, a Wal*Mart exclusive, WAS discontinued.  After a lackluster sales record with Wal*Mart.  It is the best of all the DC07 dysons IMHO.  Why?  No clutch issue on USA carpets.  Dyson made a fatal product error by discontinuing it.  At $359 and with a 5 year warranty it would have sold much better than the existing DC07 models on the market, all of which will be discontinued as the retailers sell out and clear out.

Carmine D.

My good friend:

If you are afraid to write a review on the Royal Eminence, maybe you have courage to answer me this question.  As one who criticized the performance of the HOOVER WindTuinnel, HOOVER Fusion, Oreck XL21, and BISSELL Healthy Home, why would you sell the only vacuum that you ever praised as THE EXCELLENT ONE?  I can understand to buy the latest and greatest in the same brand, save that then why?  [I know it was a big mistake].

CArmine D.

Again, to correct you:  I said that the Eureka Whirlwind was the first UPRIGHT cyclonic vacuum to USE the moniker.  Go back and check my post.  Or do I have to find it and post it for you?

Wow, I'm tired already.  I'll get to the other points in due time. 

But would rather deal with CR and vacuum related issues.  Like why if the DC07 is the signature vacuum for dyson as you claim, and its best seller, it could never manage to get into the top tier of the CR ratings like the DC17?  Not even a respectable honorable mention? 

Carmine D.

Tryin to twist again.  Actually your comment is senseless.

To say that there is no absolute best would be inclusive of all brands.  Now, if I had said that there is definitely an absolute worst then I may have included a couple of those you mention. 

My good friend:

Factor in the price for the vacuum, and my vote would be for your fave brand as the worse of all. 

Carmine D.

The Dyson claims were meant for intelligent people, not an idiot who would try to use it as a leaf vacuum or some other off the wall use.  Desperate companies often go to any means to destroy competition.  They used such examples to say that the Dyson clogs. Sadly the law all too often sides with them.  Even sadder is an old has been who loves these scenarios try and support his hate for something that kicked his a$$.   Hoover should be required to post on their bagless machines.  "The filter screen on this vacuum will almost immediately clog with use resulting in poor performance". "You should have another vacuum to assist with cleaning the screen and pleated filter".

Word of mouth is about the best endorsement a product can receive.  Remember the old addage that people will talk about a bad product and seldom mention a good one.  The ones who have been shamed by Dyson do a lot of lying and bashing.  The average consumer has only the highest praise for Dyson. 

I listen and read all the input:  Vacuum store owners, industry experts,  and professionals; consumers who rate HOOVER TEMPO the best upright;  Consumer Reports who rates it consistently in the top 10; and my dear sister who owns and uses a HOOVER TEMPO which I gifted to her over 3 years ago.  She loves it.  It is her only full size vacuum in a 3 story home.  I believe the facts, not hearsay [word of mouth as you say].

Carmine D.

My friend:

I'm more interested in the above average consumers!   Average consumers settle for mediocrity.  Perhaps the reason they like dysons.

Carmine D.