Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

How can Mr Oreck,offer a 21 year warranty ,this must be one hell of a product

MOLE

Yes I have used the comparsion on the Dyson UK Web.  Very useful so you get the right machine.  Yes Dyson does compare it own model against each other which is fine!  The new DC24 is one example 'concentrated technology', same pickup as a full size Dyson!  You don't see Dyson using Oreck on it's website to make its own products look better.  They don't need to do this!  There product stands on it's own merits! They do use general comments like 'other vacuums' etc.. they don't use a particular brand!

DC18

True about the suction more is not always better!  Dyson (and probably Oreck too?) has not really increased the wattage of it's motors over the years.  The highest they do in the UK is a 1400 watt where as other UK brands are now excessing 2000 watts and more!  The Dyson still offers great suction/performance still only using a 1400/1200 watt motor where as other makes are having to up the wattage thinking they are getting and giving better performance!

DC18

DC18 wrote:

Dyson had to learn that lesson in the USA and the DC11 was how it did.

To a lesser extent, dyson learned a lesson with the DC15 too which had an original retail of $600 and when it didn't sell, dyson dropped the price by $100.  And just after 5 months on the market in the USA.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

Perhaps dyson would not fare very well in comparisons with Oreck and/or other vacuum brands.  I doubt that a man and company who sued other competitors several times for patent imfringement and advertising claims and reaped huge settlements in the process would not compare itself to other brands if it thought it would legitimately win and/or gain more sales by doing so.  Do you?

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

Really?  The DC18, for which you are named, is the the latest dyson upright on the US market and the worse rated of all the dysons according to Consumer Reports.  So......... at least one sanctioned industry source, widely used and viewed as an authoritative consumer buying guide, would contradict your statement.

Carmine D.

So if Dyson wouldn't fare very well in comparison with Oreck why does Oreck think different!  Surely it a 2 way thing!  Dyson doesn't purely because it is 'different', nothing is the same as Dyson!

DC18

Motorhead wrote:

And no one can ignore Oreck's success in over 45 plus years in the US vacuum market. 

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

If longevity is one indication of greatness[ read success], then 45 plus years of Oreck sales in the USA with over 450 Oreck Clean Home Centers and even more independent authorized Oreck sales and service dealers must count for something more than just product bashing.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

With 500 engineers and 20 plus years of dyson vacuum history, dyson can't rush these robotic products to market. 

Might I dare suggest that if dyson focused on vacuums rather than a plethora of unrelated ill-fated mediocre products that compete for its time and resources, dyson would have had a robotic vacuum to the market by now.  Or... is that conclusion and statement of fact considered 'bashing" by dyson? 

Carmine D.

I don't need to be 'sucked' (excuse the pun!) into these consumer reports be it US or UK or world wide.  I'm not a 'sheep' that follows everyone else and reads these reports and like alot of people take it as it reads.  I make my own mind up about things by actually using the product, and word of mouth.  These so called consumer tests as far as I'm concerned are not carried out in the so called 'real' world.  People should make up their own minds by testing it for themselves!

I've used a DC18 in the UK and there is nothing wrong with it's performance and that goes for the DC15 too!  More is not always best was it not said on here!  As the Oreck has a 457 watt motor everyone seems to think that the performance of this machine is great!!!!

DC18