Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

How can Mr Oreck,offer a 21 year warranty ,this must be one hell of a product

MOLE

I'm not sure if the DC14 will be discontinued! Maybe the Lighter DC25 may replace this model!  The DC14 is very popular in the UK as was the DC07 before hand.  There has been some 'serious' marking down of DC14 prices on the high street in the UK but that is probably post Christmas and January sales!  I don't see the DC14 going too soon well not in the UK unless like I say the DC25 is to replace it!  Now the US has 2 versions of the DC17 they may phase out the DC14 in the US or scale down the DC14 range that just my guess.

DC18

DC06 as it was known, Dyson robotic vacuum has never made it to the market.  They are still working on this technology I believe.  I remember the UK website had details on the DC06 and it came with a hose so you could vacuum the stairs so it like replaced the need to have a 'normal' vacuum.  It also had an SR brushless motor too.   I think one thing they have noticed is the need for longer battery power not only to power the robotics and the vacuum around but to still give the same pickup performance as its  'full' size machines.   So the batteries would need to power the motor too.  Thus adding more weight.  I'm sure they will come out with something at some point.  One thing you have to learn about Dyson is they never rush any product to the market!

Where as the Roomba to me doesn't seem that powerful!  It looks like it would only pickup surface dirt and not do a deep clean!

DC18

Yes I have used the comparsion on the Dyson UK Web.  Very useful so you get the right machine.  Yes Dyson does compare it own model against each other which is fine!  The new DC24 is one example 'concentrated technology', same pickup as a full size Dyson!  You don't see Dyson using Oreck on it's website to make its own products look better.  They don't need to do this!  There product stands on it's own merits! They do use general comments like 'other vacuums' etc.. they don't use a particular brand!

DC18

True about the suction more is not always better!  Dyson (and probably Oreck too?) has not really increased the wattage of it's motors over the years.  The highest they do in the UK is a 1400 watt where as other UK brands are now excessing 2000 watts and more!  The Dyson still offers great suction/performance still only using a 1400/1200 watt motor where as other makes are having to up the wattage thinking they are getting and giving better performance!

DC18

DC18 wrote:

Dyson had to learn that lesson in the USA and the DC11 was how it did.

To a lesser extent, dyson learned a lesson with the DC15 too which had an original retail of $600 and when it didn't sell, dyson dropped the price by $100.  And just after 5 months on the market in the USA.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

Perhaps dyson would not fare very well in comparisons with Oreck and/or other vacuum brands.  I doubt that a man and company who sued other competitors several times for patent imfringement and advertising claims and reaped huge settlements in the process would not compare itself to other brands if it thought it would legitimately win and/or gain more sales by doing so.  Do you?

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

Really?  The DC18, for which you are named, is the the latest dyson upright on the US market and the worse rated of all the dysons according to Consumer Reports.  So......... at least one sanctioned industry source, widely used and viewed as an authoritative consumer buying guide, would contradict your statement.

Carmine D.

So if Dyson wouldn't fare very well in comparison with Oreck why does Oreck think different!  Surely it a 2 way thing!  Dyson doesn't purely because it is 'different', nothing is the same as Dyson!

DC18

Motorhead wrote:

And no one can ignore Oreck's success in over 45 plus years in the US vacuum market. 

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

If longevity is one indication of greatness[ read success], then 45 plus years of Oreck sales in the USA with over 450 Oreck Clean Home Centers and even more independent authorized Oreck sales and service dealers must count for something more than just product bashing.

Carmine D.