Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

MOLE

Hi Vernon:

Like most vacuums of today compared to the early 90's, including Oreck, the XL is a vast improvement over its predecessors.    I admire your enthusiasm and resourcefulness.  But if I were using an Oreck daily and not just for quick pick-ups, I would opt for the XL Classic or better with the odor fighting hypo-allergenic celoc bags. 

Carmine D.

And we sell a ton of them.

The back up service is second to none......Many other vacuum manufactures can take a lesson from them.........

MOLE

But If I have experts like Mole and Carmine D.  endorsing the Oreck, I will take look at them for myself.   

Hello Just:

My friend Mole likes to say a "hokie on a stick" facetiously, of course.

I know families who were die hard users of Electrolux, Kirby, and other vacuum brands for years.  As the matriarch and patriarch in the family aged and could no longer vacuum with the full sized vacuums of their younger years, they switched over to the Oreck and were very pleased. 

My caveats are with the price and usage.  Orecks are usually sold at Estate sales for $25-$50 and well worth those prices.  Many Oreck users vacuum the open traffic areas daily and then trade off once a week and/or 2 or more times a month with a larger full sized vacuum for a thorough household cleaning  That's what I do.  The others are a HOOVER WT Supreme and canister.  The WT grooms much better than the Oreck, but the Oreck is a competitive second.  I have medium pile loop Mohawk wool carpets and ceramic tile floors with area rugs.  Oreck is ideal for cleaning both rug and floors daily with no need to shut off the brush roll and/or adjust height.  Oreck is effortless from one floor covering to another.   And my dear Wife will take out the Oreck and vacuum before she would ever use the HOOVER WT.

One more note.  I purchased the XL Classic new through a special offer with the US Humane Society and paid $150.  No other amenities and give-aways.  And a one year guarantee.  I bought two more and gifted them to family members including my daughter who is expecting her third child.  Her house is over 3000 square feet and she is using the Oreck on the main level until I install a central vacuum unit.

Plus, Oreck has Clean Home Centers around the country.  Most sell parts and service all vacuum brands, not just Orecks.  Parts and repairs are quick and easy.  If you go into one and ask about repairs, most will tell you that 80 percent of the weekly repair work are non-Oreck vacuums. 

Carmine D.

Carmine,

This is why I stated I would look for myself.  I am not as young as I used to be.  Besides, as much as I do love my Kirby,  I am just too darn old to drag a baby elephant up and down the stairs everyday anymore.  I currently am using a Eureka Boss 402B light weight as my tidy up machine and my Kirby as my main workhorse.  The Eureka besides being a screamer with a short cord, has this tiny little filter in a cup that plugs after about three seconds of cleaning.  I would like an Oreck or Simplicity light weight for my quick jobs. 

The house I bought is an older home  with glued down carpet in the kitchen and basement.  Besides a very thick plush in the living room, dining room, hall.  Berber in the other rooms.  Two carpeted staircases wouldn't have been a problem with my Kirby before my car wreck four years ago,  but now my back won't take it too often.  Thus the highest traffic area of the home is only throughly cleaned about once a week. 

OH--BTW, If I ever catch you endorsing a Dyson.  I will start looking around for UFO's and those bodysnatchers from the Sci-Fi movies.  Because I know they've got you.

Just:

If you decide to buy a new Oreck, and you have an Oreck Clean Home Center near by, by all means shop there and see what kind of a deal they offer you.  I would not be surprised if they match the Oreck-USHS price on an XL Classic if you foregoe the extras and are content with a year guaranty.  And/or offer a rebuilt Oreck to you at a decent price.

You will enjoy the store venue if you've never been in one.  Oreck does a terrific job in showing the colors proudly.  Very professional.  Nice atmosphere.  And your timing may coincide with a customer's match off of an Oreck and dyson in a cleaning contest. 

Carmine D.

The best comment i ever heard from an oreck customer is that she didn't have to take a nap after cleaning her carpets.

MOLE

I love it!  That says it all.  If people equate vacuuming to hard work, they won't do it.  Instead putting it off until they absolutely can't anymore.  With an Oreck you're not tired after the deed is done.  You do the traffic areas, the floors, the throws, and then zip under the furniture and beds too.  You wrap up the cord, and don't have to break your back to do it.  Then you tuck it away behind a chair/lamp until the next day.  Change the belt every 6 months, it takes 30 seconds.  And there's a storage well on the soleplate for a spare.  Change the bag every 2-3 months [maybe longer].  Takes a minute.  Store extra bags in the outer bag pocket.  Dispose the full bag in the kitchen trash.  No daily/frequent dust and dirt bin dumping.  People equate the latter with hard work.  And consequently they don't do it!  Throw in filter maintenance and weight of bagless vacuums and you have a huge headache.  In addition to a backache. 

Carmine D.

Hi Just:

I didn't notice this in my earlier reading and it gave me a good laugh.

I've made several personal and professional suggestions for improving dysons on a number of vacuum Forums.  I was probably the first observer to note and comment on the flimsy brush roll [bar] on the DC07.  And warn buyers and users that it was not an industry standard brush roll.  This was in April 2002.  I also criticized the u bend airway saying that customers typically step on it confusing it for the handle release also in April 2002.  And criticized the DC07 for not having a headlight.  The u bend joints would be found laying around the dyson vacuums unattached.  Why?  The store staff did not know how to attach and the dyson manual didn't specifically illustrate.  A BEST BUY employee and supervisor tried for 20 minutes when they demoed the DC07 to me.  Of course without the u bend air way, it has no attachment suction.  I finally showed them.  These faults have been corrected [save the headlight].  I could go on, but I'll spare the readers the redundancy.

One of the reasons I laugh, is because there have been recent UFO sightings over Las Vegas on 2 different occasions.  Both seen by dear Wife and several of our neighbors.  To my knowledge, they got no news coverage locally/nationally.   Not like the recent fire at the Monte Carlo Hotel/Casino.  After the first sighting, I kidded my Wife and others about it.  Citing the Twilight Zone.  After the second, I didn't.  Wait until I tell her that she was right and jaydee is sending his cadre of cronies to kidnap me.  She'll love it!  Some thought that was the reason for my absence from this site.  No such luck by jaydee. 

My sense is dyson will do one of 2 things in the future: One: Sell the dyson rights off to the highest bidder which he tried to do before in better economic times.  And/or resign himself and his products to a "niche" market in the USA.  If the former, the dyson products will result in a niche base of faithful clientele.  Most of whom, post on the vacuum Forums and will buy anything with the dyson name and pay whatever it costs.   

if I were still in the business I would stock and sell dysons [if customers absolutely insisted on buying].  And I would wholesale them by just covering my costs of sale.  As an accomodation for my customers and to have the dyson repair and parts business which should get lucrative soon.

Carmine D.

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Carmine D.