Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Early news reports in the USA are saying the London financial markets nosed dived today in the worse downturn ever.  This comes on the heels of a 4 percent drop in the Dow Jones Industrials last week alone.  Since today is a Federal Holiday in the US in observance of Dr. Martin Luther King the financial markets are closed.  Not sure what impact the London market fall will have on the US markets--have to wait to see.

What and how long will it take jaydee to realize that he needs to enter the low to middle price range vacuum market to stay competitive in the USA in the big box stores' venue?

Any news yet on the 2007 dyson sales? 

Carmine D.

I hate to see American jobs lost, and presumably suppliers/vendors not paid or paid in full.        DIB

Kohl's having a one day sale, including floor care today.  Looks like its down sized the venue of vacuums to "affordable" low-mid range budget models.  Kohl's is not exactly a Wal*mart clone, more on the order of a TARGET.  Surprising to see dyson left out of the sale venue.  More surprising if you search on dyson vacuums only 3 models come up:  DC16, DC15, and DC21.   Looks like Kohl's is culling the high end dyson line up in favor of the less expensive makes and models, bagged and bagless.

Interesting? 

Carmine D.

Here is the link, I forgot to post to my previous message.

http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/homecare.jsp

Not a wide selectoion of dyson vacuums in the Kohl's venue these days.  Wonder what's happening with dyson and Kohl's?  DC15, 16, and 21.  Terrible choices. 

http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/homecare/brandsforhomecare/dyson.jsp?bmForm=guided_nav_search&SubcatFolderID=2534374752659699

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Kohl's is one big sale every day.  Their discount is off the highest retail to be found.  The sale price is usually as high as or higher than a lot of retailers' daily price.

HARDSELL wrote:

Of late, you're absolutely correct.  Kohl's is feeling the squeeze of the lack of consumer spending and its sales and sales supplements are coming more and more frequently.  What Kohl's offers, which apparently many consumers like, is the regular 10-20-30 percent off on all purchases for a given day.  With another 10 percent off the discounted price if you use a Kohl's credit card to charge the purchase. 

Carmine D.

Kohl's having another sale Saturday April 19.  Floor care too.  10-40 percent off

Dyson conspicously absent again.  Everything else on sale.  Sorry for the lengthy web site.  If you prefer go to the Kohl's Web Site and navigate through to floorcare.

http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/saleevents/0418ph_supersaturday/homecare/1afloorcare.jsp?ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENe=&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENo=24&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENs=&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENtt=&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Erecs=12&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EN=74375&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Etype=2&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374753240004&bmForm=guided_nav_search&bmFormID=1208522579223&bmUID=1208522579223

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Dyson conspicously absent again.  Everything else on sale.  Sorry for the lengthy web site.  If you prefer go to the Kohl's Web Site and navigate through to floorcare.

http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/saleevents/0418ph_supersaturday/homecare/1afloorcare.jsp?ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENe=&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENo=24&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENs=&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3ENtt=&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Erecs=12&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EN=74375&ENDECA_SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Etype=2&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374753240004&bmForm=guided_nav_search&bmFormID=1208522579223&bmUID=1208522579223

Carmine D.

Hey Carmine,

Here is how you make your own (blue) link.  It is relatively easy to do and easier for us readers to use too.  Simply clicking on hyperlinks (blue links) is the better way versus us readers copying and pasting the non-linked web address links into our URL address box in our browsers.

1.       Do this:  Type in your post something like - Click here or Go here for story, etc.

2.       Do this:  Highlight text highlight the phrase "Click here" and leave it highlighted, just like whey you highlight to copy and then paste in a word program.

3.       Your are going to need to achive this:  Now place a "hyperlink" (blue clickable link) pointed at or onto this highlighted (click here) text.  Here's how...

4.     Do this:  While text (Click here)  is highlighted, then click on the "world w/chain link" (aka insert/edit link) icon (a pop up window will open) and paste the address (dyson.com) you want folks to be taken to/linked to.  And click ok.  That's it.       

Posting pictures here at this forum are easy to do to.        DIB

DIB:

Thank you.  I'll give it a try [as soon as I figure out what langauge you are speaking ]

I received the newspaper supplement for the Kohl's sale tomorrow.  The floor care sale [15-33 percent off before the 10 percent for charging on Kohl's] says "Entire stock floor care" BUT ....also says "Excludes Dyson."

That's two floor care sales exclusions for dyson in one week?  Unless the Kohl's plan is to do a floor care sale just for dyson?  Which is possible and may explain the reason that only 3 dyson models are now on the Kohl's Web Site:  DC15, 16, and 21.

Carmine D

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,  I gave it the college try.  It is pretty cool linking and posting images too.  It would be about a 5 minute lesson for today’s teens to teach you if desired (a grandchild?).

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Honestly, I do not now enough of retail and marketing strategies, so I cannot comment (much).  Kolh’s looks to be quite committed to Dyson or advertises Dyson big on their site.   Kolh’s has the biggest retail header/banner stating the No Loss claim I have seen.  Kohl’s did a nice job.  Like I said in the past the No Loss claim seems to be a non-issue now, and this no doubt helps other manufacturers with their low w/ high cyclonic filtration.  I saw Bissell Healthy Home on HSN being talked of having "Non Loss of Suction"  as well as the Dyson phrase too.  Mr. Dyson has his work cut out for him.  The low w/ high cyclonic filtration wars are only beginning.  I'd like to see a good and fair race.  Dyson being an F1 fan, I would hope he likes a good run.   I'd like to see Miele and whomever smartly invent and smartly advertise their wares.  If Dyson is a true competitor, then he needs to be pushed to become better.  Maneuverability is partly what Dyson is banking on and by the reviews I have read so far it is working. - The DC24/25 are already getting very good/good reviews.        DIB

DIB:

I'm always up for the college try.

In my experience, big box retailers exclude a brand from an all store sale for one of 2 reasons.  Either the brand is so popular that sales are not needed to move the product.  Or the product doesn't sell regardless of the sales incentives.  The latter can be no fault of the product.  Just conditions of the economy/geographic nature of the store and the financial wherewithal of the store's clientele.

Kohl's and Lowes were among the first big box retailers to stop using the dyson claims when the bruhaha erupted with the ASA.    My sense is that dyson is not a big seller at the Kohl's stores which traditionally do not stock the product on the store shelves.  Instead, customers pick up a chit on the display model and present to the cashier for purchase.  This arrangement in many instances during peak sales lines discourages the purchases.  Why?  The cashier requests a warehouse pick up which can take upwards of 30 minutes to complete the purchase.  All the while the customer is waiting.  I find that most US consumers want to get through the check out line in 5 minutes or less and be on their way.

Carmine D.