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How can Mr Oreck,offer a 21 year warranty ,this must be one hell of a product

MOLE

Thanks Just for your comments/observations.

DC18

DC18 wrote:

Well smartee, add this to my observations and comments.

As I said, I use the Oreck daily for vacuuming and complement with a full size like the HOOVER WT weekly and as needed.

This week I changed up.  I noted the HOOVER's full bag indicator was beginning to edge off it's mark.  Not that it is full.  Probably half.  I don't wait until it fully engages and the bag is full.  In part because of my dear Wife's allergy and sinus issues.

So, this week I've been vacuuming with the HOOVER.  Any full size would do.  In part, because I want to change the bag this week [tomorrow].

Well, after a week of doing so [vacuuming with the full size], this morning I threw my back out feeding the dog.  Bending over as I do all the time.  Old Army injury.  But aggravated over the years with age and neglect and abuse. It will take about 14 days to get back to normal with a routine of 3 kinds of medications [all prescription] daily with different dosages starting on full to final weaning off as pain subsides.  Of course the medications have other physical side effects which I've learned to deal with.

No doubt the reason is using the HOOVER this week and not the Oreck.  And my dear Wife will tell me so, as she's done in the past.  Let me also add, that the HOOVER WT has the embedded dirt finder lights.  And without fail, whenever I change from Oreck to HOOVER, and vacuum over the areas I used the Oreck, the HOOVER indicator stays green.  NO dirt.  Not with the dyson DC07 Pink.  Use the dyson, vacuum over with the HOOVER and red light stays on for a few passes [picking up] , then goes green.

My sense is there are about 80 million or more Americans like me [read old with physical limitations] in the US.  Perfect candidates for Oreck and lightweight vacuums.  Not to mention all the hotel and motel staff who would eventually develop similar back problems problems as mine if they lugged dysons and full sized vacuums around for daily cleaning for years.  No doubt the reason, in part, jaydee added the DC18 for which you took your name here and a bunch of new baby dysons.  Maybe he's looking to tap into Oreck's lock on the hotel and motel rug cleaning in the US?  NEVER HAPPEN. 

LIke your other dyson buddies here and on other vacuum Forums you too look for excuses and others to blame to promote your pro dyson drivel whenever you can.  Own up and continue to post your dyson pics which is what you are good at.  You and your dyson clan want to continue bashing Oreck here, I'm ready to take you on and defend it.  Let's get it on.  

Mike if you want to lock this thread, censor me, edit and/or whatever else you do as Moderator when the dysoners get out of control, do it.  That's what the dysoners want isn't it?  And you oblige and fall right into their hands.

Carmine D.

I'm not 'bashing' Oreck just making observations and general comments from comments and links put on this and any other thread on here.

I'm not getting into an argument or debate as there is no need too.   I don't use excuses or lay blame on other products to make Dyson look good.  I just make inpartical observations and comments like everyone else on here.

DC18

With a name like DC18, it's clear to me based on your posts that you are here for ONE reason and one reason only:  To promote dyson and everything with its name.  Just like dysoners have done on all other vacuum forums, only in the past they used their names.  That's my impartial opinion.  Based on your posts and pics. 

Didn't one of you dysoners post early on in this Page words to effect: "Let's keep the dyson threads on top of the page so keep posting!"  If that's not promoting, what then?  Impartial opinions and comments?  "Playing" as Mike likes to call it.  Sell it to Mike and jaydee, not me.  I'm not buying it. 

That's fine. Different strokes for different strokes.  Do it on the dyson boards and on the dyson threads.  So people like me and others who want to skip over the same old dyson drivel you post can read about the vacuums of our choice and interest.  Not yours and dysoners. 

Thank you for the opportunity to clarify for you and all your dyson fans my impartial and objective opinion based on the comments and narrative expressed herein.  I sincerely appreciate it.

Carmine D.

I read all the threads on here with general interest.  If I was just a pure Dyson Fan why did I post a new thread about Vax UK launching the Mach series of vacs (same as the Hoover US ones).  I wouldn't have bothered doing so if that was the case.  I have an interest in Vax as well since we had one of there first UK  3 in 1 machines.  I also have an interest in the Sebo Felix (UK) but I prefer to use Dyson like yourself prefers the Oreck and Hoover.  Same as I prefer Bissell carpet cleaning machines over the Vax ones but I still look with interest as to what all the vacuum cleaners manufactors are doing!

DC18

"There's so much more to come from the Cyclonic King!"  Sound familiar.

Promoting dyson, Mr. DC18.  The rest is all window dressing.  Sell it to Mike and jaydee.  Own up.  Let's cut through the chafe and get to the wheat.  You and your dyson clan are here to promote dyson.  Plain and simple.  Do it on dyson boards and threads.  So I and others can skip it.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

But Carmine,THE BAG WAS HOPELESSLY CLOGGED......

MOLE

Well, if we want to start talking about the effectiveness of dirt sensor lights, and dirt sensor-equipped machines vs. Dysons, may I provide an example from a DC17 review on the Target website:  http://www.target.com/Dyson-DC17-Animal-Vacuum...

The review is the last one on the bottom of the page.  In it, the customer says:

8 of 8 people found the following review helpful: Worth the money, October 2, 2007

Reviewer:

Anne "Anne" (Ashland) - See all my reviews

I vacuum my home with my Hoover Windtunnel till the green (clean) light remained on. Then I used the animal to vacuum the same areas the amount of dirt and hair was amazing. I wish I had this vacuum when my kids were little. We have 2 cats and two dogs and the vacuum is very powerful. I know some have complained that the vacuum has damaged carpet, but to me that proves that the suction power is the best. You just need to use common sence when vacuuming. The rooms even smell fresher after vacuuming. I have noticed that my allergies are not as bad after using the vacuum for 3 weeks. I have also noticed that I do not have to dust as often.
I really like being able to see the amount of dirt instantly. The attachments are easy to use, once you figure things out. The instructions are more pictures then words. But the tools really help in getting pet hair off of furniture. I have used the vacuum in my car after taken the care to CARPOOL and the amount of hair and dirt the animal removed again amazing. You will definately feel that you have actually cleaned your home when you vacuum with the dyson.

I've known all along that a dirt sensor isn't an effective measure of what is being picked up...even CR has said this many times over the years, the March 1996 report I've referenced before being one of them!  I'd rather see the dirt itself; at least I know the machine is picking up.

Incidentally, I wasn't hunting for Dyson reviews when I found it.  I was looking on the Target website to see if the new Eureka AirExtreme canister was on there, noticed some low reviews for Eureka uprights, and decided to see what the Dyson ratings were.  So, I checked them out and this was the result.  I'll have to see if there are any reviews, both positive and negative, from any former Oreck owners.

-MH

Well lets' see now.  First it was you Motor Mouth, then Dyson Invents Big [read expensive] then DC18 with there's more great things to come from the Cyclonic King and now its you again.  Trying hard to get Mike to banish me from the Page?  Right?  That's your motive isn't it?  So you and your dyson cronies can continue unchallenged with your dyson promotions and drivel.  Well I got news for you.  Let's get it on.

Let me tell you again as I did before on this thread.  As a dyson promoter yourself and alleged vacuum collector man, [what is your logo?]  I don't care what your anonymous reviewer, who I don't know and don't want to,  says about the HOOVER WT and the embedded dirt finder lights.  For all I know it is you.  Or another dysoner, paid to say it.  Maybe you are paid by dyson to post what you say here.  I don't know.  I don't really care.  Why?

I'll stick by and with MY OWN PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCES with the HOOVER WT, Oreck Classic and dyson DC07 Pink in my home on my carpets.  AND the words of warning from the builder and his rug sub contractors to 3000 plus new home buyers:  DO NOT, repeat DO NOT, buy dysons for the rugs.  They won't work.  Which is the same advice the dyson tech line gave me when it was obvious to them that the dyson DC07 pink couldn't make one pass on my rugs without the gawdawful ratcheting noise.   AND the certifications by the Rug and Carpet Institute of America which recommend HOOVER and Oreck vacuums [read not dysons]. 

Now, how many more of your dyson promoters want in on this thread about Oreck?

Let's get it on!  Next dysoner please.

But really on a more serious note, the point of my post was to say that Orecks and lightweight vacuums provide a useful and effective alternative to daily vacuuming than a full size vacuum for persons like me [read old and physically challenged].  And hotel and motel cleaning staff who have been using Orecks for over 40 years [with complete satisfaction] so they avoid developing the same ailments from daily use of heavy full size vacuums.

Thank for the opportunity to clarify my impartial opinions for you based on your posts and links provided herein.  I sincerely appreciate it.

Carmine D.

One key thing I didn't mention in my previous post (probably isn't worth mentioning as most are aware of it but I'll say it anyway) is that with a dirt sensor equipped machine, the dirt sensor is only an indicator of when the cleaner has stopped picking up.  That doesn't necessarily mean there's no dirt in the carpet.  So there's a good chance the WindTunnel was (hopelessly) clogged and wasn't picking up well.  Or, as James would say, wasn't working "properly".

I took the review directly from Target, where it was posted by a customer who had purchased a DC17 Animal.  Whether she (or the other happy Dyson customers) were paid to write their reviews, I have no idea.  Keep in mind there are both positive and negative reviews for that particular DC17, on the same page that I linked to and on other pages.  So I wouldn't think so.  In fact, I was scrolling through the DC14 All Floors review section, and found a person who didn't care for the DC14 and liked their old Oreck better.  To each his or her own, in the end.

-MH