Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

How can Mr Oreck,offer a 21 year warranty ,this must be one hell of a product

MOLE

DC18 wrote:

Dyson had to learn that lesson in the USA and the DC11 was how it did.

To a lesser extent, dyson learned a lesson with the DC15 too which had an original retail of $600 and when it didn't sell, dyson dropped the price by $100.  And just after 5 months on the market in the USA.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

Perhaps dyson would not fare very well in comparisons with Oreck and/or other vacuum brands.  I doubt that a man and company who sued other competitors several times for patent imfringement and advertising claims and reaped huge settlements in the process would not compare itself to other brands if it thought it would legitimately win and/or gain more sales by doing so.  Do you?

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

Really?  The DC18, for which you are named, is the the latest dyson upright on the US market and the worse rated of all the dysons according to Consumer Reports.  So......... at least one sanctioned industry source, widely used and viewed as an authoritative consumer buying guide, would contradict your statement.

Carmine D.

So if Dyson wouldn't fare very well in comparison with Oreck why does Oreck think different!  Surely it a 2 way thing!  Dyson doesn't purely because it is 'different', nothing is the same as Dyson!

DC18

Motorhead wrote:

And no one can ignore Oreck's success in over 45 plus years in the US vacuum market. 

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

If longevity is one indication of greatness[ read success], then 45 plus years of Oreck sales in the USA with over 450 Oreck Clean Home Centers and even more independent authorized Oreck sales and service dealers must count for something more than just product bashing.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

With 500 engineers and 20 plus years of dyson vacuum history, dyson can't rush these robotic products to market. 

Might I dare suggest that if dyson focused on vacuums rather than a plethora of unrelated ill-fated mediocre products that compete for its time and resources, dyson would have had a robotic vacuum to the market by now.  Or... is that conclusion and statement of fact considered 'bashing" by dyson? 

Carmine D.

I don't need to be 'sucked' (excuse the pun!) into these consumer reports be it US or UK or world wide.  I'm not a 'sheep' that follows everyone else and reads these reports and like alot of people take it as it reads.  I make my own mind up about things by actually using the product, and word of mouth.  These so called consumer tests as far as I'm concerned are not carried out in the so called 'real' world.  People should make up their own minds by testing it for themselves!

I've used a DC18 in the UK and there is nothing wrong with it's performance and that goes for the DC15 too!  More is not always best was it not said on here!  As the Oreck has a 457 watt motor everyone seems to think that the performance of this machine is great!!!!

DC18

DC18 wrote:

As you said, I bought the Oreck and use it daily.  I made up my mind for myself.  I like it, use it, recommend it and will continue to do so.  And it just so happens, that Consumer Reports does too.  At least more so than most all the dysons.  45 plus years of sales history is a huge selling point for consumer satisfaction too.  Wouldn't you say?  Especially in commercial use by hotels and motels. 

Carmine D.

I think your forgetting Dyson invents new technology not repackaging old technology and is constantly working on new technology where it comes to anything is a different matter. That is what makes Dyson different.  Also people think that all 500 Engineers are working on just vacuums and in particular one vacuum. These Engineers are working on serveral projects and I would have thought not just vacuum cleaners either! 

DC18