Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

How can Mr Oreck,offer a 21 year warranty ,this must be one hell of a product

MOLE

Hi Motorhead

Thank you!  I was only stating the obvious from the 'so called facts' Oreck was stating/claiming about a Dyson machine!  I agree with you Oreck must be grasping and clutching at something to try and sell their machines.  If the Oreck technology is so great then as I've said already the product will sell itself there is no need to make comprision to a specific machine which really is not a like for like model/setup!!

Yes I think Dyson is picked on or used because they have something different to offer and there is nothing 'truely' new and different on the market for them to use/pick on! Dyson thinks 'out of the box' which is different and unique to the so called 'norm' and like you say has been very successful with it.  I do think are 'deep' down affraid in someway of Dyson.   If Dyson is no good then why do they try and compare their machines to them, they should just concenstrate on their own technology and promote that!  If there own technology is any good then the product will sell.

No I have not seen an Oreck fan but looking at the size of the machine I can only guess it is very small like you say.  Oreck in the UK is not sold in high street shops they are mainly web base, newspaper and magazine articles and are always aimed at the older generation!  Where as Dyson is main stream!  I think for the price (Oreck UK) I think they are well over priced for what they are and in my opinion a 'modern' Hoover Junior! Or some would say an electric sweeper!

I take it MH you don't like the mini Oreck canister then!?

I think the headlight is cosmetic.  We had a Hoover (UK) Turbopower in the late 80's which had a head lamp and it played no use when using it.  In fact when the bulb went we didn't get it replaced no need to!  It a waste of time and energy having one!  If I wanted to vacuum in the dark then yes but I don't think anyone would!  Never seem to purpose of them really!

DC18

So when is Jimmy boy going to innovate a bumper strip into his innovations.Do the dyson faithful feel that this would be a benefit to the customer?I really would be upset when that cleaning head is crashing into my woodwork and marking it all up.I mean come on boy's even my regina electric had a rubber bumper on the nozzle.

My suggestion to Dyson would be to get out of the vacuum market,before he and his 300plus engineers are on the unenployment line.

Maybe they can R@D into a candle that burns from the bottom to the top.And then and only then tell us how innovative they are.DYSOON............

MOLE

M00seUK wrote:

M00seUK et al:

Webster has the following definitions for "bash"  as a transient verb: 1. To strike with a crushing blow. 2. a. To physically assault; beat up. b. To abuse verbally. 

And as a noun: 3. A crushing blow. 4. a lively social event.  And finally basher-noun.

A checklist of product features comparing one product brand to another [or to its own for that matter] does not meet the above definitions of "bashing'.  It presents the facts in an easy to read comparative format.  Some would say smart comparative advertising.  Oreck does the same for its own vacuum products.  So does dyson.  So do all other brands.  Does this mean they are "bashing" their own products?  Pointing out the differences in an easy to read format?  If you think so, fine don't buy it.  To me, it's smart and effective advertising. 

"You'll discover that while a dyson may be pretty, a new Oreck Ultra is pretty smart." 

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

So when you vacuum under the beds and furniture you can see and remove any objects that should not be vacuumed up.

Carmine D.

Motorhead wrote:

I answered this question for DC18.  If you are vacuuming under furniture and beds, the light is useful to draw your attention to objects that should be removed before vacuuming. 

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Hi Mole:

That's one feature that Oreck missed in its comparison to the dyson.  Oreck has a full machine wrap around rubber furniture guard.  Dyson does not.  Thanks for pointing that one out to us.

In case there is a question why a furniture guard is needed except for appearance, I would recommend banging the dyson against a baseboard, furniture leg, and door and see what happens.  Then do the same with an Oreck.  Then note the difference:  On the vacuum and the furniture, door, and/or wall.

Carmine D.

I've have not really seen Dyson compare their product to a specific product ou there on the market.  Well there isn't any, only copy cats who can not come up with there own technology!  Dyson mentions other vacuums in general does not pick out own brand/model!  

Again the DC14 is not a comparsion to a Oreck.  What Oreck is trying to get at is their vacuum is lighter compared to a full size vacuum!  Job done!  No need to mention a specific brand/model!  Why not use Hoover etc... let me guess Dyson is 'different' so let use them so it stands out more!  If it was someone else no one would think twice to look at the statement/advert!

As for the bumper, earlier Dyson modesl (DC01, DC03, DC04) had a rubber bumper strip!  This was replaced on later models with the large debris inlet at the front so the rubber bumper was dropped.  I have to say I don't think there is any models in the UK that offer a soft bumper on their Upright machines anymore.  Even a bumper can leave marks behind depends what it is made of.  People should be more careful when vacuuming and not 'bash' about when doing it!  I've seen it all to often, people wilfully bashing the machines (uprights and canister heads) into skirting boards and furniture!

DC18

I have accidently knocked my DC15 and DC07 into furniture in the past, both where unmarked!  To me the Oreck bumoer is too thick so you wouldn't get the suction right up to the edge like a Dyson you would have to 'relie' on the so called side brushes!

If I was vacuuming under a bed or furniture with a vacuum that had a headlight I would have to be bending down or my back to push the machine under for one and to see if there was anything under there I didn't want the vacuum to pick up!  I prefer to do a proper job and move the bed or furniture and clean under it throughly! 

DC18

DC18 wrote:

Good point.  That's the reason vacuum makers use furniture guards [read bumpers] on their products.

BTW, I understand COSTCO marked down their exclusive dyson DC14 Complete from $469 to $399.  I wonder if they are discontinuing its sale.  Based on the comments about the DC14 from dyson admirers on this thread, I can understand if they are.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

I do too, but not daily.  I don't have the time and energy.  It's hard work.  Maybe weekly/monthly.  For daily vacuuming of dust and dog hair under the beds and furniture, Oreck is simply amazing.  Quick and easy.  Almost effortless.  Although, I see iRobot has a new 5th Generation robotic model 555 for $279.  I might give that a try.  What ever happened to the dyson robot?  Did it ever make it to market?

Carmine D.