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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #48 Jul 29, 2009 2:25 pm |
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You guys are not even close...
Dave is not the problem. He has great enthusiasm, has a great history to draw from (and tell) of selling door-to-door hyped and expensive vacuums. He is a James Dyson fan and supporter of better inventions. He should stay as long as this keeps coming thru! His integrity is far and above that of Hoover’s Julie Truster. He’s far more knowledgeable and enthusiastic than the Bissell rep too. The Dyson corp and messaging is run from the top down like many corps. Dave (an HSN rep) is NOT RESPONSIBLE for the Dyson messaging, he is responsible for delivering this Dyson messaging. Dyson is not even broadcasting (messaging) and celebrating their worlds only and worlds best separation technologies-the DDM w/ Core + Root separators. Having a separator vacuum with 4-7 years of guaranteed no-clogging filtration is HUGE, yet Dyson isn’t exploiting it.
DIB
You're not honest. You must have watched the HSN video with dyson color glasses. The demo was very disappointing and filled with errors and/or outright lies which Dave let pass several times w/o correction.
The reason dyson has eliminated HSN prime view times, TV product spots, and printed product ads is due to MONEY! He's [dyson] is bleeding cash daily. He can't afford to pay high priced engineers [average yearly salary of dyson engineers is in the 6 figure numbers], in-house lawyers and for hire lawyers on retainers, unprofitable/ unrealized R&D costs and advertising expenses too. Hence dyson products skipped the Oscars and conceded defeat to HOOVER! Declining vacuum sales and market share globally for the past year and some. Dave no longer boasts dyson as the top seller in dollar sales as he once did in the past. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #49 Jul 29, 2009 3:04 pm |
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Dave is not the problem. He has great enthusiasm, has a great history to draw from (and tell) of selling door-to-door hyped and expensive vacuums. He is a James Dyson fan and supporter of better inventions. He should stay as long as this keeps coming thru! His integrity is far and above that of Hoover’s Julie Truster. He’s far more knowledgeable and enthusiastic than the Bissell rep too. The Dyson corp and messaging is run from the top down like many corps. Dave (an HSN rep) is NOT RESPONSIBLE for the Dyson messaging, he is responsible for delivering this Dyson messaging. Dyson is not even broadcasting (messaging) and celebrating their worlds only and worlds best separation technologies-the DDM w/ Core + Root separators. Having a separator vacuum with 4-7 years of guaranteed no-clogging filtration is HUGE, yet Dyson isn’t exploiting it.
DIB
You're not honest. You must have watched the HSN video with dyson color glasses. The demo was very disappointing and filled with errors and/or outright lies which Dave let pass several times w/o correction. The reason dyson has eliminated HSN prime view times, TV product spots, and printed product ads is due to MONEY! He's [dyson] is bleeding cash daily. He can't afford to pay high priced engineers [average yearly salary of dyson engineers is in the 6 figure numbers], in-house lawyers and for hire lawyers on retainers, unprofitable/ unrealized R&D costs and advertising expenses too. Hence dyson products skipped the Oscars and conceded defeat to HOOVER! Declining vacuum sales and market share globally for the past year and some. Dave no longer boasts dyson as the top seller in dollar sales as he once did in the past. Carmine D. The dishonesty and quantity of dishonesty title is yours. It’s oh so easy and has been oh so easy to disprove your rock-throwing of Dyson claims as unprovable. It sounds like (reads like) you’re a slave to Dyson-jealousy (a condition of many wannabe garage tinkerer bad mouthing-of-Dyson dealers and enthusiasts). Feel free to begin backing up your rock-throwing, anti-Dyson diatribes with facts. Sure [HSN] Dave did and did not say things during his debuting the radically different and new vacuum with its many new technologies, and so what?-It proves nothing. The late night time-slot debut is mostly practice anyhow. Nice try. DIB
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retardturtle1
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #51 Jul 29, 2009 4:38 pm |
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You're not honest. You must have watched the HSN video with dyson color glasses. The demo was very disappointing and filled with errors and/or outright lies which Dave let pass several times w/o correction. The reason dyson has eliminated HSN prime view times, TV product spots, and printed product ads is due to MONEY! He's [dyson] is bleeding cash daily. He can't afford to pay high priced engineers [average yearly salary of dyson engineers is in the 6 figure numbers], in-house lawyers and for hire lawyers on retainers, unprofitable/ unrealized R&D costs and advertising expenses too. Hence dyson products skipped the Oscars and conceded defeat to HOOVER! Declining vacuum sales and market share globally for the past year and some. Dave no longer boasts dyson as the top seller in dollar sales as he once did in the past. Carmine D. hey carmine...is it me or is dib wound a little too tight on this dyson thing? is he a dyson invester.../high end dyson dealer...
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #52 Jul 29, 2009 5:46 pm |
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hey carmine...is it me or is dib wound a little too tight on this dyson thing? is he a dyson invester.../high end dyson dealer...
Hello turtle1:
DIB, like James, suffers from dyson insecurity syndrome. James and dyson have to elevate dyson by bashing and attacking the competition. Can't succeed on its own merits. That's the dyson play book. DIB is the first one to point call out others when they do it to dyson but can't see it when dyson has been doing it for years. I have often quoted scripture to DIB: Telling him [dyson] to remove the log from his own eye before criticizing the splinter in the eye of others. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #53 Jul 29, 2009 5:58 pm |
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Sure [HSN] Dave did and did not say things during his debuting the radically different and new vacuum with its many new technologies, and so what?-It proves nothing. The late night time-slot debut is mostly practice anyhow. Nice try.
DIB
The late night product spots are the cheap slots! No viewers. No call ins. No sales. Period. Practice? Maybe for Helen. Dave should know this stuff by now. Shouldn't have to practice. Tho, as I said the demo was very disappointing. Dave should go.
DC28 hasn't debutted officially yet on HSN. This was not it. As Helen said, lovely lady that she is, HSN is trying to make a few sales first so when it does launch there are some dyson persons [other than dyson shills] to call in with product affirmations. Wait until the HSN dyson buyers find out that there is a prcing war on the DC28 and its not an HSN exclusive. That should be real good for dyson and HSN's business agreements and sales. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #54 Jul 29, 2009 7:24 pm |
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hey carmine...is it me or is dib wound a little too tight on this dyson thing? is he a dyson invester.../high end dyson dealer... Retard, Many in the dealer industry and many in the enthusiasts sub-culture freely jeer the man and his team that blew life (invent new technologies) into a tired product and industry. On this site and thus far another side to the Dyson story is represented. I must commend you for sticking your neck out, most bad-mouthing-of-Dyson vacuum cleaner clubbers and dealers stay off. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #56 Jul 30, 2009 6:38 am |
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i say what i gotta say....i stand my ground on what i believe in......all in good fun...nothing better than a debate i say... heck DIB ..id even save you a seat on the lifeboat when it comes time for you to jump ship.
Hello 'turtle1'
You're a gentleman and a vacuum man. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson on t.v.
Reply #57 Jul 30, 2009 6:50 am |
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I watched the HSN clip. Takes about 25 minutes. Very disappointing demoes and pitches. Gone are the grandiose praises of dyson sales. Dave had difficulty with picking up some of the materials he spread on th carpets. Boasting one pass pick up and after several passes w/o luck said the materials must have "static charge." Welcome to the real world Dave. Carmine D. Hello vaclov and Venson: Procare is right on and is MOLE. DC28 design could be problematic by sealing too tightly with rugs and stiffling suction power even resulting in overheating. Note the Aerus write up about the Aerus power brush heads and tools. Carmine D.
After thinking on this for a bit, I'm concerned that the reason dyson Dave couldn't pick up the materials he spread out on the rug in one [and even more passes] is the reason Procare and MOLE provided. Sealed to tightly to the rug.
Ahh the dc28,the Dyson king of the hill machine. will seal itself to higher pile carpeting the normal everyday consumer will over adjust the brush and head, causing big prblems right off the bat. This should be the straw that breaks the camels back. regards MOLE The DC-28 sounds like it is not made for the American carpets.With the pneumatic acuator and STIFF brushes going deeper into the pile a couple of things would happen. ONE ) The carpet would be frayed in a year's use and TWO) airflow would be deminished because of the seal it would cause. Our carpets, the majority have a plastic moisture barrier to keep water from going through because of hot water extraction. In the earlier carpets they breath due to jute back carpeting. That is why older Kirby s could seal to the floor and clean , today they need air openings to let airflow. Procare When I demoed dyson's DC28 at BEST BUY store, the carpetting is their run of the mill flat line pile. Not typical of what is found in US homes and houses. Dyson may have an expensive red herring on his hands with this one and perhaps that is the reason for the price wars, since the dyson twins have ignored the questions.
Carmine D.
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