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Re: Motor HP debate
#1   Mar 20, 2005 10:15 pm
Opps, didn't see that one.  I guess I was just pointing out the fact that the manufacturers have been incorrectly stating the HP's incorrectly for years and years.  My old B&S motor was supposed to be 3.5HP and it is actually less according to the old manual.
Motor HP debate
#2   Mar 20, 2005 8:34 pm

It seems that the manufacturers of lawnmowers are posting that the rated HP will be significantly less because the engine must meet environmental, safety and operating requirements.

I was curious about this and started looking at the displacement of some of the new motors and compare it to my old 3.5HP B&S motor.  For instance, a 6.5HP Tec motor has a total of 195cc's and my old Briggs has a total of 148cc.  So I can say that the 6.5HP motor definitely has a larger displacement than the 3.5HP.

I got the manual out for my 15 year old B&S and in the manual there is a disclaimer as well about the total HP the engine will produce.  The manual states that even though it is a 3.5HP motor, it does not actually produce that much.  Basically the statement says that the motor is rated for 3.5HP at 3600 RPM but because of safety, the RPM's are HP are less for the engine.  Further to this they actually state that to improve startablility and performance they have made changes to the motor so that it will not produce 3.5HP at 3600 RPM.

So it looks like the motor manufacturers have been doing this for many years but recently the lawnmower manufacturers are actually stating this on there web pages.  I wish they would post what the actual torque and HP is for the motor instead of meaningless numbers.

Tecumseh Easy Start Performance
#3   Mar 15, 2005 11:00 pm
Tecumseh is advertising the L-Head design motor with "Easy Start Performance" and this motor is available on several lawnmowers that are on the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these newer designs and do they typically start on the first pull?  I am considering a mower with a 6.5HP Tecumseh
Re: Lawnboy lawnmower
#4   Mar 8, 2005 12:23 pm
Marshall wrote:
Ah, sounds like maybe a little price gouging is going on? Could he be quoting you a higher end Honda model than the Tecumseh model you're looking at thus making it seem like all of the price difference is for the engine only?


The only significant difference is the motor. I did find out that the only ones they are ordering this year is the Tec. version and if the customer wants the Honda version they say that it will cost extra for shipping (probably because they have to make a special order for this). I am getting the impression they do not want you to order the mower with the Honda engine because it will be a hassle for them so they have made the price 50% more. Time to shop elsewhere.
Re: Lawnboy lawnmower
#5   Mar 7, 2005 11:06 pm
Marshall,

The dealer I talked to quoted a much higher price for the mower with the Honda engine.  Like I said, I will have to verify this with another Canadian dealer because the price does not seem right.

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