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Re: Two-Stage Snowblowers - Impact on Concrete Driveway and Exposed Aggregate
#1   Oct 8, 2008 3:39 pm
Thanks, Mech12 that's what I was afraid of. While I'm not anal about my driveway like JohnnyBoyUpNorth's neighbor, my wife and I are planning to retire in this house and want to maintain its appearance as long as possible. While I don't look forward to managing large snow days with a single stage, it seems the only option for the time being.

One final question, I currently have a Toro 3650 GTS that I bought 8 years ago. Are the new Toro single stage units like the 421Q 4-cycle an improvement over that model?

Thanks!
Re: Two-Stage Snowblowers - Impact on Concrete Driveway and Exposed Aggregate
#2   Oct 7, 2008 11:15 am
Thanks for the reply. I already own a single stage (see above) and that doesn't seem to be the answer.

What are others experiences with permanent scratches/scrapes on concrete from steel skid shoes and scrapers? Anyone else been able to use a two-stage blower successfully on exposed aggregate?

Thanks!
Two-Stage Snowblowers - Impact on Concrete Driveway and Exposed Aggregate
#3   Oct 6, 2008 5:56 pm
Hello!

This is my first post and I would appreciate any thoughts you might have based on your experience with two-stage blowers.

We built a house two years ago that has a concrete driveway (about 120' long) with an exposed aggregate border. The aggregate also forms the walkways for all three front entry doors and the garage apron. I have been using a Toro single stage for the last two years and have struggled at times with the amount of snow we receive here. We had over 100" last year and I felt every bit of that. We live in a lake effect snow belt so get blasted quite regularly. Given the direction of the prevailing winds the snow accumulates around our three car garage and entry areas and can be as high as 18" or more. I find with the single stage Toro that I am reblowing the snow repeatedly (as the turnaround area is longer than the snow can be blown) just to get it cleared.

After two years of this I've decided that a two-stage would be a better answer to this problem. However, my initial forays into local dealers have turned up several issues. First of all, we have an exceptionally nice (expensive) concrete driveway and several dealers have warned me that the skid shoes on a two-stage blower can scratch the driveway with repeated use. They've also indicated that the scraper blade could be a problem with the exposed aggregate. I've been abble to find a polycarbonate alternative for Ariens but have had no success with the scraper blade. As yet, I have been unable to locate non-scratch skid shoes or scraper for the Simplicity I'm interested in.

I am now also concerned with about a two-stage from a clearance perspective. If I set the blade too high (to avoid scraping) I could be leaving a significant residue on the blown surfaces. This was not an issue with the single stage Toro. This would not normally be a problem but I sold my SUV this year in favor of a rear wheel drive car. While I've ordered winter tires and rims, I'm concerned that leaving too much snow on the driveway will result in a slippery surface or ice buildup that could become problematic. My driveway has a 15 degree slope that adds to the problem. One dealer suggested that I use salt to eliminate the remainder but I believe the landscaping around the driveway would be adversely affected by this solution.

I guess I'm interested in two things. First, does a two-stage blower leave scratch marks on a concrete driveway? (from the skid shoes and/or scraper) And second, how does a two-stage handle a significant amount of exposed aggregate? Is the only solution raising the blade to a level where a significant amount of snow is left behind?

I was really looking forward to a two-stage blower but now am not so sure. The problems they impose may be larger that the challenges I currently experience with the single stage Toro.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and assistance.

PS I skimmed all threads in the forum back to 2005 and could not find an answer.
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