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mml4


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Worth a look
Original Message   Feb 14, 2005 5:42 pm
Check out Ebay#4358052867. Never saw one before but I think I'm in love!

Must be Valentines day,

Marc

This message was modified Feb 14, 2005 by mml4


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snowshoveler


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Re: Worth a look
Reply #9   Feb 14, 2005 7:44 pm
looks impressive...

i would like to see the gear box in the front end.

thats where the new ones have all the trouble...i spend way too much time in the bucket of them.

they still make a 4 wheel unit but the wheels are all on same axle.

later chris

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Marshall


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Joined: Sep 16, 2002
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Re: Worth a look
Reply #10   Feb 14, 2005 7:46 pm
Nice truck in the background.
Ben07


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Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Re: Worth a look
Reply #11   Feb 14, 2005 7:48 pm
Chris when you looked at it what wheels did what.  Reason I am askin is at first I think you would think it would be a bear to turn, unless two differentials.  Na Too expensive.  two wheels on one side, na wouldn't go straight in high snow an still be hard to turn.  I would guess very similar to a 4x4 , one drive wheel on each axil on opposite sides, (like rf an lr).  so that when you turned there wouldn't be any two wheels pinned on the same axil, however when you did turn would have to lift up on the drive lever to let everything free wheel.  Similar to putting your four wheel drive truck's transfer case in neutral.  If that is the case,  it would be almost as good as a differential unit, ,  an almost the capabilities of toro power steer cept no power when you turn.  However you might be able to spin that baby around as easy as a shopping cart at the food store.

If it is cheaper an almost as good, who knows it may be used again with success. 

Hurry  up get the owner in here to write a review before he sells it!!

Ben07

Oh P.S.your question on that 4wd snow blower,  don't know how they did it, but apparently that is an example of the full statement,  it is 4 wheel drive,  all 4 drive and they are in full lock-up with each other, no slippage etc.  .the trigger mechanism  somehow unlocks one complete side or the other when turning.. Did they do it with belts,  they could have  but my personal guess if I were a betting man and the way I would do it would be with another gear or a chain system.

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jogo


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Re: Worth a look
Reply #12   Feb 14, 2005 7:51 pm
A review and a link...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_improvement/home_improvement/1275641.html?page=2&c=y

Made in 1995...

 few more pics at link..

"

With its four-wheel configuration, this Tecumseh-powered 8.5-hp machine fits the niche between track-drive units and smaller dual-wheel throwers. However, the four wheels are far from the whole story.

For maximum traction, two-wheel snowthrowers have both wheels locked to the axle. Manually freeing one wheel before you start out makes for easier steering, but you lose that wheel for traction. Cub Cadet's steerable 826 has an on-the-fly drive-disengagement mechanism. Here, a small lever under each handle frees the wheels on that side so turning in that direction is easier. In the straight-ahead position, there's power to both sides.

The system really works, and with a little practice, you can spin this heavy machine on a dime. You'll still wrestle with it a bit on tight turns, but slow curves are effortless.

The Model 826 has a descriptive control panel with a lever for six forward and two reverse speeds (Photo 1). A second lever controls chute tilt, and an electric motor adjusts chute rotation (Photo 2). The handle-mounted auger and drive levers feature an auger-lock system so you can keep moving with one hand (Photo 3), and there are even electric heaters in the grips (Photo 4).

We found that the 20-in.-high x 26-in.-wide chute gobbled up everything in its path. Only when deep snow reached the top of the chute did our overloaded 826 lose forward motion due to slippage in the internal drive clutch.

Complete with electric start, the Cub Cadet 826 costs about $1300 at Cub Cadet dealers. Contact Cub Cadet, P.O. Box 368023, Cleveland, OH 44136; www.cubcadet.com."

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Ben07


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Re: Worth a look
Reply #13   Feb 14, 2005 7:55 pm
Ok thanks, so it is similar to the toro power steer cept four wheels  Thank you

Ben07

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18Degrees


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Re: Worth a look
Reply #14   Feb 14, 2005 8:35 pm
i had some interest in that one for my 18 degrees driveway, but felt the track  drive would give more tracktion.  For the price i saw at the time for a new one I'm glad i got what i did.      

           18  degrees

18 Degree driveway - 928 Honda track drive - Fertilizer spreader for dispensing salt
Marshall


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Re: Worth a look
Reply #15   Feb 14, 2005 8:40 pm
LOL, now we know. That's pretty good. 
nibbler


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Re: Worth a look
Reply #16   Feb 19, 2005 9:34 am
Ben07 wrote:
I would guess very similar to a 4x4 , one drive wheel on each axil on opposite sides, (like rf an lr).  so that when you turned there wouldn't be any two wheels pinned on the same axil, however when you did turn would have to lift up on the drive lever to let everything free wheel.  Similar to putting your four wheel drive truck's transfer case in neutral.  If that is the case,  it would be almost as good as a differential unit, ,  an almost the capabilities of toro power steer cept no power when you turn.  However you might be able to spin that baby around as easy as a shopping cart at the food store.
Perhaps I'm confused but this doesn't describe a 4x4. A 4x4 has 4 wheels and 4 driven wheels. What is being described is a 2x4 with a funky drive train. It looks like it would be more expensive to build than 4 driven wheels on two differentials which is what I believe a true 4x4 uses. The transfer case either switches the drive train between high and low range(s) and/or between 4 and 2 wheel drive. I.E. 2 wheel high and low, 4 wheel high and low. Then you have the whole wheel lock thing. I remember a power wagon where once the wheel locks were engaged you were supposed to back up about 30m ( 100ft) before going forward.

I've heard of some vehicles that claim to send power to each wheel "as needed" but I suspect what they actually have is two differentials and some sort of brake  that allows them to control how much doesn't go to a wheel. Does anyone have a better expalantion, I'm sort of guessing on this one? The only other way I can think of would be a hydrostatic transmission with a

What I'd like to see is something like this:

1. 4 wheels
2. Each wheel is steearable; and
3. Each pair can be set to either move opposite or the same as the other pair.

That way you can either turn on a dime or move sideways. Great for parking.
18Degrees


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Re: Worth a look
Reply #17   Feb 19, 2005 3:10 pm
nibbler wrote:
What I'd like to see is something like this:

1. 4 wheels
2. Each wheel is steearable; and
3. Each pair can be set to either move opposite or the same as the other pair.

That way you can either turn on a dime or move sideways. Great for parking.


It is called a Bobcat       ( skidsteer )                                             18 degrees

18 Degree driveway - 928 Honda track drive - Fertilizer spreader for dispensing salt
mrmom


Joined: Sep 19, 2003
Points: 345

Re: Worth a look
Reply #18   Feb 19, 2005 4:57 pm
Boy, slap a hydro tranny on that baby and kick back and relax.
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