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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Original Message   Nov 2, 2013 10:33 am
A lot of SS now comes with 200cc engines.  This new model from Toro should level the playing field.  Toro's new 721R-C 212cc SS snowblower. 

http://www.toro.com/en-us/professional-contractor/snow-removal/single-stage/pages/model.aspx?pid=power-clear-commercial-721r-c-38751
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slinger


Joined: Sep 22, 2010
Points: 158

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #1   Nov 2, 2013 7:51 pm
Do you expect that they will eventually add 721R-C with Q, Z & E options? I'm really surprised to see that in a more "ruggedized" unit that they don't include the zip deflector at least. Are we to garner from this that the lowly friction-type deflector is the more dependable way to go? Has anyone out there ever had trouble with their zip deflector (or quick chute, for that matter)? I noticed that some other brands of SS were using a polymer paddle instead of the standard rubber one. Wonder if that's what is being employed here? So now Toro has 721, 621, 418,& power shovel offerings in SS design. They are getting as bad as Ariens is in the 2 stage department!
jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #2   Nov 2, 2013 8:56 pm

One thing I noticed.  (after clicking on link then on "Features" then on the "engine").
Was that it appears that the muffler is simply going to vent under the cover.
The muffler itself is mounted right above the center of the engine.
Not out to the side as with most blowers.


aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #3   Nov 2, 2013 9:29 pm
The muffler looks like it's too tall to fit under the cowl.  Perhaps this is just a representative engine shot, not the actual one in the snowblower.
jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #4   Nov 2, 2013 9:39 pm
aa335 wrote:
The muffler looks like it's too tall to fit under the cowl.  Perhaps this is just a representative engine shot, not the actual one in the snowblower.

I think your probably right .  I found this photo
and it looks as though the muffler might be venting out the left side.


aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #5   Nov 2, 2013 9:42 pm
slinger wrote:
Are we to garner from this that the lowly friction-type deflector is the more dependable way to go? Has anyone out there ever had trouble with their zip deflector (or quick chute, for that matter)? I noticed that some other brands of SS were using a polymer paddle instead of the standard rubber one. Wonder if that's what is being employed here?

My 14 year old Honda SS has the friction deflector. when adjusted properly, it is dependable and consistent. 

For the 721R paddles, it's probably cord/fiber reinforced rubber but thicker than the residential version.

I can't remember, but either Simplicity or Ariens had the molded rubber or polymer paddles.  It was expensive.  Surprising, it did not perform better.  :)  Looks good though.

I'm not sure which models now have the polymer paddles.  The only ones I've seen are on the electric single stage.  I prefer the rubber paddles, more flexible, conforms to the pavement, and wipes clean.
joed


Joined: Sep 1, 2008
Points: 84

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #6   Dec 18, 2013 10:08 pm
Has anybody had anymore experience with this new commercial unit?   I have a one year old 221QZE that I bought last year brand new.  It's a 2010 model.  I was thinking of trading it on on the commercial unit but I wanted to get some reviews first.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #7   Dec 19, 2013 12:07 am
I wouldn't trade that 221QZE.  Hold on that baby.  That's the last one of its breed.  2 stroke Toro's are highly desirable.  Love the sound of that engine.

The 721R-C performance should be better than anything Toro has made so far.  I'm confident of that.  Toro should produce a 721QZE version though.
slinger


Joined: Sep 22, 2010
Points: 158

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #8   Dec 21, 2013 10:04 am
aa335 wrote:
Toro should produce a 721QZE version though.

That's the SS I'm going to hold out for. Hopefully within the next season or so.
niper99


Location: London Ont
Joined: Dec 2, 2007
Points: 354

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #9   Dec 21, 2013 8:47 pm
Toro finally caved in and went Chinese!!! LOL... Although so far these engines are holding up well..
ralphfr


Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Jan 22, 2011
Points: 40

Re: Toro 721R-C Commercial Single Stage Snowblower with 212cc engine.
Reply #10   Jan 21, 2014 10:00 am
Was curious about the possibility of getting a QZE version of the 721 so I asked Toro directly. Here is their reply for anyone interested. It looks like it's a real possibility.

1/21/2014

Thank you for contacting The Toro Company.

We currently have no plans to add more features to the 721 this season. However, we have received many requests for these features for next years models. We recommend checking back during the summer when we unveil our new models for next year.

We appreciate the opportunity to assist you. If you have any further questions, feel free to contact us.

Sincerely,

Zachary

Customer Care Representative


Case Number 2615855

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