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Toro CCR3650 R-Tek 141cc rebuild question
Original Message   Dec 30, 2011 8:55 am

   Picked up a CCR3650 for $40 that a dealer tossed in the towel on.  It's a 2003 model 38518 and has the R-Tec 141cc engine.  The externals were ok and the engine not frozen so picked up as a possible resurrection or worse case a parts machine.   After taking it apart and looking it over it seemed it would cleanup fine so the only issue was the engine. 

   It had spark but would not start and the compression very.  The electric start gear was stripped but the flywheel teeth ok

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   Took out the engine that seemed very small.  Hard to believe it’s 6.5hp.  It looks like it should go on a model airplane.  Opened the engine and to my surprise the crank was on roller bearings.  Odd was there is no part number for the bearings.  The crank is sold as an assembly with bearings.

   Opened up the engine and found the piston in pretty bad shape, with heavy scoring from top to bottom, especially the bottom which is very bad. 

   On one side the rings are stuck solidly in their slots and the wear such that the rings can’t be distinguished from the piston body.  The bore above the ports has lines but seems smooth.  I can’t catch a fingernail but can just barely feel them and guessing a few might be .0005 or less. 

   Below the ports is another story.  There’s deep lines and rough places.  The question is what are the chances of success with a rebuild?  The piston top will ride down to the top edge of the ports where the bore is in ok shape.  I think the piston would probably go down to where the bottom ring is just above the port. 

    The bottom of the piston skit would be at the same level as the bad scoring on the bore.  The bottom bore scoring will probably rip up a new piston skirt quickly.  Can that be lived with or will damage to the skirt cause problems?

   Another question is has anyone put in a different engine into one of these bodies (38518)?

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mml4


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Re: Toro CCR3650 R-Tek 141cc rebuild question
Reply #7   Jan 1, 2012 9:11 am
trouts2 wrote:

Mml14,

   I tried to get to the Chicago Lawn Mower and Snow Blower site but it’s broke.  A short block would be too expensive but I wanted to see what they offered.

 

Borat: “A plain bearing wouldn't survive with the limited amount of lubrication available”

   So that’s why they have needle bearings.  Maybe the needles instead of $#%* due to space? 

      Your right, it looks pretty grim.  It would be about $140 in parts and given the condition of the bore not an assured success for the effort.  It's a great parts machine though.  I’ll be trolling for 3650 someone’s backed their car into or cobbled up a tree limb and mushed the auger. 

 

    BTW: I sold off the 2450’s I had and picked up a very nice 3650 for $75 to use for the season.  The auger engagement lever was limp.  The engagement spring buried in the base was broken.  The guy sidelined the machine for a few years in parts after he gave up fixing it.  He also left the gas in so the carb was loaded with a thick blue-green jell from evaporated gas and oil.  This will give me a slightly larger hp SS to try out this season.



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