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stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Points: 213

Simplicity or Craftsman??
Original Message   Dec 26, 2011 8:40 pm
A few weeks ago I posted about how impressed I was with Simplicity's new 208cc SS unit, looked well built and much more appealing over the Toro. Anyway long story short I was just looking for some tools at Sears.com and noticed the Craftsman  88782 thou I would probably never buy a craftsman again this thing looks really nice! Anyone have any insight on this machine?

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niper99


Location: London Ont
Joined: Dec 2, 2007
Points: 354

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #3   Dec 27, 2011 3:49 am
the older craftsmans were built alot better, like 20 years old... but everything of that age seems to be of better quailty than there producing now. it is what is...
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #4   Dec 27, 2011 5:41 am
Sears' business model is structured so the lowest bidder wins the contract to build "fill in product here" for that year or timeframe. While it may reap high profits, it reduces the quality of the product they sell and tarnishes their reputation. Just my opinion...

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #5   Dec 27, 2011 7:51 am

The Craftsman 88782 is a MTD 31AM2T6D799 selling for around $600 US.  Parts should be easy to get.

 

21 in. 208cc* Single Stage Snow Thrower w/Electric Start

 

Performance

208cc* 4-Cycle OHV Craftsman® Engine provides more power, longer life, and improved fuel economy - no mixing of gas and oil required. Move more snow with a more powerful engine and save time out in the cold

Push button electric start allows for easy and sure starts in cold temperatures

21 inch clearing width and 13 inch intake height lets you clear more snow with each pass, ideal for small to medium paved driveways, decks, and sidewalks

Snow Claw® auger technology reduces clogs and throws snow farther, with rubber paddles engaging the ground to clear pavement clean

Auger-Propelled forward speed - the ground engaging auger paddles pull the unit forward reducing effort to maneuver unit

 

Design

2-way Remote Chute Control - 190 degree chute rotation with ease of a joystick to discharge the snow where you want it, quickly and easily without leaving the operators position

In-dash headlight illuminates the clearing path

8" x 2" wheels allow for easy mobility when not throwing snow

 

Convenience

Mitten-grip starter handles - easy to grasp and turnover recoil start while wearing gloves

Ergonomic gull wing handle designed for a more comfortable grip and better control

 

Warranty

2 Year Limited Warranty backed by Sears Service

royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #6   Dec 27, 2011 11:31 am
niper99 wrote:
while i dont have experience with that particular model, but l will say that SEARS parts department at least where i live in canada do a VERY poor job.. and trying to get replacment parts means long wait times... and i mean long, like i have to wait 3-6 months to get parts sometimes.. which is complete bull$#%*...and with sears products dealers have a very hard time getting specs as sears does not relaese it to dealers as the other brands do.. so if i go to my local dealer he cant look up a part for craftmans machine..now dealer know by experience what parts a what but still another drawback that sears does.. so something to consider when buying a craftmans snowblower, other than that there machines do hold up pretty well in my experience.


I have been buying my snowblowers , lawn mowers, chainsaws, tractors  etc .from Sears for over 30 years.   I have always found that these machines have been assembled properly with no adjustments required

They stand behind their warranties and their service department is excellent.  Their parts service is also excellent.   all  I have to do is give them the model number and  serial number , They are very helpful in finding

the parts that I need. They have always had the parts in stock, even parts for my older machines  . They ship the parts out the same day and I receive them in a few days.

Also , their prices  for parts.are amazingly  inexpensive.

I find that their snowblowers etc are  well built and last for many years without having any problems.

Be sure to check out Craftsman before looking at anything else

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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #7   Dec 27, 2011 12:36 pm
trouts2 wrote:

The Craftsman 88782 is a MTD 31AM2T6D799 selling for around $600 US.  Parts should be easy to get.

 




Also available in Cub Cadet exciting race yellow and black paint scheme, and remote deflector adjustment.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202937354/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #8   Dec 27, 2011 12:48 pm
Don't buy a Craftsman if you have a choice.   As previously mentioned Sears parts are criminally expensive.   Insultingly expensive.  Outrageously expensive.

Case in point:

Bought a used Craftsman SS machine last January.  Motor mount cracked causing misalignment issues which ate the belt.   Priced a belt from Sears, brace yourself.....

$47.00 plus shipping plus tax worked out t around $54.00.   Bought a suitable belt from NAPA for $7.00.   Fit perfectly and was flogged mercilessly all last season and has seen all of the snow removal chores so far this year.  Don't forget, I've got that old Craftsman humming along at 6000 to 6500 rpm.  If the $7.00 belt even last for one season, it's worth the price.  If it lasts longer.....bonus!
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #9   Dec 27, 2011 1:01 pm
borat wrote:
Don't buy a Craftsman if you have a choice.   As previously mentioned Sears parts are criminally expensive.   Insultingly expensive.  Outrageously expensive.

A little off topic, but several years ago, I had Sears quote on replacing a sliding patio door.  $5000 !  Just for one.  Not that the door was anything special, just the standard vinyl clad door, and the job was subcontracted to an installer.  I wonder what was Sear's profit on this deal.

Never bought anything expensive from Sears again.  Sears has lost it, I don't understand their business model.  A time ago, it was your one place shopping for clothes, appliances, electronics, and car service.  Now, it's just a department store occupying expensive retail space in a mall. 
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Dr_Woof


Don't blow into the wind, and don't eat yellow snow. WOOF!

Location: Saskatchewan
Joined: Dec 13, 2010
Points: 253

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #10   Dec 27, 2011 3:50 pm
Yep - once needed a 1" left threaded replacement bolt for a Sears fridge - they wanted TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS for it.  Found another solution.  Now I hear Sears is closing over a hundred stores in North America - wonder why  LOL.

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #11   Dec 27, 2011 6:52 pm
Dr_Woof wrote:
Yep - once needed a 1" left threaded replacement bolt for a Sears fridge - they wanted TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS for it.  Found another solution.  Now I hear Sears is closing over a hundred stores in North America - wonder why  LOL.

Yeah the bolt must have been hand made by Leonardo DaVinci.  A real freaking masterpiece!!  I heard that Sears/KMart will closing down 120 or so stores in the USA but none in Canada.  I guess we're still dumb enough to keep them in business up here.  I buy nothing from Sears and wouldn't miss them if they closed down up here.  They're masters at gouging people yet fools still drop their money there.
RedOctobyr


Location: Lowell area, MA
Joined: Nov 5, 2011
Points: 282

Re: Simplicity or Craftsman??
Reply #12   Dec 27, 2011 7:18 pm
There are definitely things I don't buy there. OPE as an example, though that's not limited to them, since I prefer to try and buy better-quality used stuff, nowadays. But our fridge has been working well, for instance, and they had the best deal (our Kenmore is made by Whirlpool, as I recall, and I found the same model for more at other stores, sold under a different name).

I have been quite happy with the hand tools I've gotten there (sockets, wrenches, etc). And when I have suddenly needed a tool quickly, they've been there to help (mail order doesn't help when you need it today). They have also replaced the few tools I've had issues with, under the lifetime warranty. I have not interest in seeing them go away. Competition helps us as the consumers.

Even if you or I don't patronize them for Item X, I'd still rather they stay in business. As much as I like Harbor Freight for some things, I don't want my two choices in stores to eventually just be Wal-Mart and Harbor Freight.
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