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coasteray


El Toro! 1028 LXE
Tecumseh 358cc
10hp


Location: NE Washington State
Joined: Mar 3, 2008
Points: 142

Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Original Message   Nov 20, 2011 1:10 am
I just started using my new hour meter/tachometer today on my blower, and it peaked out at only 3180rpm, but steadily displayed 3120rpm.  It is this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Tachometer-Kawasaki-Motorcycle-Generator-Snowmobile/dp/B0049IFX56/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321768364&sr=1-1-catcorr 
         

Using that horsepower-to-torque formula (HP = torque x rpm, divided by 5252), I get 8.66 HP at 3120rpm.  At 3600, it would be 9.993 HP.  For the formula I used a torque figure of 14.58, which I got by plugging in the assumed Tecumseh 10.0 HP figure at the assumed rpm of 3600, into the torque-to-horsepower formula (HP x 5252, divided by 3600).  Lots of assumptions, I know, but I had to get the torque figure that way so I could turn around the formula to get my horsepower figure at 3120rpm.

Anyway, I don't know if this meter is accurate.  When my son and I get his Ariens ST824 put back together again (took it apart to paint the inside of the housing; adjust the chains; replace the friction disc, cracked handlebars, and beat-up/bent impeller; serrate the augers using a Platinum 30 cardboard template I made while at Home Depot; greasing the chains, auger shaft, and friction disc shaft), then I will try my tachometer on his machine.  I may just pick up another meter to compare in the end. 

If the reading is the same on his, or close, then maybe it is the meter.  If he gets around 3600rpm at full throttle, then maybe I need to adjust my governor.   If I do have to adjust it, does anyone know how to do that?  It's only a three-year old Tecumseh L-Head 358cc.  Thanks for any help.
This message was modified Nov 21, 2011 by coasteray


  El Toro! 1028 LXE - Tecumseh 358cc 10hp   Let it snow! Let it snow! Let it snow!
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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumasseh engine?
Reply #53   Nov 23, 2011 11:23 am
aa335 wrote:
I do applaud you for venturing outside of your comfort zone on this one though.  I think you would have better transition working on a simple two stroke machine like a Toro Powerlite as opposed to a complex HS35.


Thanks for your comforting words.  HS35 is not very easy to open up and perhaps I learned my lessons too. 
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumasseh engine?
Reply #54   Nov 23, 2011 11:45 am
MN_Runner wrote:
Thanks for your comforting words.  HS35 is not very easy to open up and perhaps I learned my lessons too. 

Those HS35 are the BMW of SS snowblowers.  It is a complex model.  Just looking at the diagrams for the scraper bar and hardware to hold it in place, that's a lot of parts.  Other snowblowers are a lot simplier.

Last year when I worked on the HS621, I took pictures at various steps and keep all the fasteners organized.  It also helps to work on them in warm weather so you're not hurried to button them up for use to clear snow.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #55   Nov 23, 2011 2:06 pm
Changing the scrapper bar was no fun either and took too much time.  G150 is a nice engine which will outlast the body so you really have to take care of the body.  Hopefully I can keep my 928 in a good shape.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #56   Nov 23, 2011 10:15 pm
@aa335,

So to be clear, your HS621 is not for sale, right? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/grd/2706687911.html

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #57   Nov 23, 2011 10:47 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
@aa335,

So to be clear, your HS621 is not for sale, right? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/grd/2706687911.html


Nope, mine is not for sale.  Too much time and money spent on it to let it go.
This message was modified Nov 24, 2011 by aa335
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #58   Nov 24, 2011 9:50 am
aa335: It does kind of look like your garage in the photo....

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #59   Nov 24, 2011 10:06 am
I did not think aa335 was selling his beloved HS621 and the pictures look so close.  The garage floor was painted in the ad and not sure if aa335 recently painted his concrete floor.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #60   Nov 24, 2011 11:37 am
My garage floor is not painted.  I have plans to do epoxy paint the floor, but haven't find the time.  The pictures do look very similar to the ones I took.

A few weeks ago, there was a local CL ad for a HS621.  The seller used the exact picture of my snowblower!  Very misleading!  Gotta be careful of CL sometimes.  What you see is NOT what you get.
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #61   Nov 24, 2011 11:51 am
MN_Runner wrote:
I did not think aa335 was selling his beloved HS621.

I have some plans for putting in a GX200 engine with some performance mods that the karting guys do to it, with throttle control and remove the governor altogether.

I'm sure the chassis can handle it.  It's just a matter of time and money.
blumonster


Location: Wisc.
Joined: Oct 14, 2011
Points: 163

Re: Tachometer rpm reading accurate on my Toro Tecumseh engine?
Reply #62   Nov 24, 2011 8:30 pm
I read somewhere on the forum that aa335 painted his HS621.It looked brand new on the pictures, not faded like the ones on craigslist ad.
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