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MIkecr250
Joined: Nov 22, 2011
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Honda HS1332tas
Original Message Nov 22, 2011 7:07 pm |
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Well, I found some great info from a guy on here so I thought I'd post up my initial thoughts on this snowblower I purchased last week. I really didn't want to purchase a snowblower that cost this much but I have a 900ft stone driveway and did not want to buy a plow. I paid 3100.00 for the snowblower and picked up the optional side skid kit which I have not installed yet. If you decide to purchase one, make sure you drain the oil after you get it. I found out that the dealership that I purchased mine from added 10w40 oil instead of the reccomended 5w30 because this is what they had by the drum. I picked up some cheap 5w30 and swapped it out and it looked like it needed it, there were already break-in metal flakes all throught the oil. I'll change it again after the first hour of run time and then again over to synthetic once I get some time on the motor. The augers and shafts need to come apart as soon as the machine arrives. I found less than a dab of grease on the shafts and splines. The bearing caps can be packed with grease as well. I used bell ray waterproof grease. After running it a little bit, I was not happy with the dim output of the headlight. I'm upgrading to this as soon as it's in stock. http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-Bulbs/DRLFOG-LED/Universal/27W-9-LED-SPOT-AUX-WORK-p9622351.html#ReviewsTabAnchor It puts out 1600lm and uses about the same amp draw as the stock halogen. I also ordered a cheap hour meter from ebay that should fit the bill. I'll post up some picts later on. Mike
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aa335
Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Honda HS1332tas
Reply #7 Nov 22, 2011 10:28 pm |
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Well, my previous snowblower was a Honda HS55 from the mid 80's. Here is the deal with the augers. If you break a shear pin and the auger spins enough it could cause enough friction to "weld" the auger to the shaft. Tolarances are pretty tight from honda. Also when water and time get into the shafts, they can rust and cause it to bond with the auger making it impossable to seperate. This is what happen to my Hs55. I had to use a torch to cut off the auger to free it from the shaft. Honda doesn't put grease fittings on the auger from the factory so this is worth the investment of time in my opinion. I'm not familiar with the HS55, never seen it in person. Sounds like what you are describing is the same construction for all current snowblowers, except the newer Honda HSxxx and the new Yamahas. The newer Honda with model names HSxxx are different. I would suggest you look at the how the shear bolts are attached to the carrier block. Internally to the auger tube, there is a short length of shaft, but it doesn't go all the way to the other end of the bucket side plates, very little shaft surface area for it to accidentally weld on. When the shear bolt breaks, it doesn't fall into any tubes, but out to the ground. You can grease it if you like, but offers no additional benefits. What I do twice in the spring and fall is to take out the shear bolts, spin the auger and feel for any resistance. It should spin nicely without much drag, no corrosion. That's all there is to it.
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MIkecr250
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Re: Honda HS1332tas
Reply #9 Nov 22, 2011 10:38 pm |
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I'm not familiar with the HS55, never seen it in person. Sounds like what you are describing is the same construction for all current snowblowers, except the newer Honda HSxxx and the new Yamahas.
The newer Honda with model names HSxxx are different. I would suggest you look at the how the shear bolts are attached to the carrier block. Internally to the auger tube, there is a short length of shaft, but it doesn't go all the way to the other end of the bucket side plates, very little shaft surface area for it to accidentally weld on. When the shear bolt breaks, it doesn't fall into any tubes, but out to the ground. You can grease it if you like, but offers no additional benefits. What I do twice in the spring and fall is to take out the shear bolts, spin the auger and feel for any resistance. It should spin nicely without much drag, no corrosion. That's all there is to it.
Struggling with the picture hosting or linking on this site...=(
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MIkecr250
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Re: Honda HS1332tas
Reply #11 Nov 22, 2011 10:48 pm |
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Firefox worked thanks. Anyway you can see the shaft ends in the pict I posted. These were assembled dry from the factory.
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aa335
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Re: Honda HS1332tas
Reply #13 Nov 22, 2011 10:53 pm |
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Firefox worked thanks. Anyway you can see the shaft ends in the pict I posted. These were assembled dry from the factory. Yes, the shaft doesn't go all the way through the auger. Isn't the shaft diameter stepped down so that it doesn't actually touch the auger tube? Is the HS55 the same design?
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jrtrebor
Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
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Re: Honda HS1332tas
Reply #14 Nov 22, 2011 11:02 pm |
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The augers and shafts need to come apart as soon as the machine arrives. I found less than a dab of grease on the shafts and splines. The bearing caps can be packed with grease as well. I used bell ray waterproof grease.
Well your the first person that understands what can happen. To the stub shafts that go into the auger tubes if and when they go dry, and they will. Honda in my opinion should at least suggest that the shaft / tube connection be checked for grease at some point. You have to have had that joint apart to appreciate how tight the tolerances are. I bought a very well used and somewhat abused 928 that had a snapped the gear box shaft. Because of the exact situation that developed when the dry shaft was allowed to spin in the tube when a shear bolt broke. The auger welded (galled) itself to the gear box shaft. And the next time something was hit or got picked up the shaft snapped. All the stress, strain and pressure is on the short piece of shaft. It's not spread out like it is when the shaft runs the entire length of the auger tube. It's not a bad or faulty design. The fault is with Honda not making that area a maintenance concern. Granted it only becomes a concern under heavy usage and or the age of the machine. But the issue and concern is valid. Galling - Definition: A condition whereby excessive friction results in localized welding with subsequent splitting and a further roughening of rubbing surfaces of one or both of two mating parts.
Galling can occur even at relatively low loads and velocities
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MIkecr250
Joined: Nov 22, 2011
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Re: Honda HS1332tas
Reply #15 Nov 22, 2011 11:02 pm |
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Yes, the shaft doesn't go all the way through the auger. Isn't the shaft diameter stepped down so that it doesn't actually touch the auger tube? No, the shaft is not stepped down, in fact it fits pretty snug. I packed the hollow shafts with grease and will eventually add grease fittings to them when I get time. I dont have pictures of it, but the second stage blower comes off a splined shaft that also had no grease on it but a dab. I've seen it before, these things develop a very little bit of rust and then they are never coming off. I'd rather grease it. I've also read that grease give a degree of impact absorbtion if you hit somthing like I will likely do with my gravel driveway.
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