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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Original Message   Nov 11, 2011 10:22 pm
My little HS520 is a loud bugger.  When I hold the chute handle then it is fairly quiet.  Perhaps I will need to add some nylon washers around the chute.  How loud are Toro 421/621 variants? 2 cycle Toro sounds like small engine motorcycles.  Did anyone do a modification to make his/her SS quiet?
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royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #14   Nov 15, 2011 6:20 pm
My Craftsman 52844  Single Stage ( I think it was built by Murray) makes more noise than my Husqvarne Two Stage,

MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #15   Nov 15, 2011 6:56 pm
blumonster wrote:
WOW! $15? You got it for free then.Looking forward to seeing the pictures.

I wonder if the scraper is facing backwards or forward.

I bought the shop manual and its supplement for HS35, if you need it I can take photos and send them.



thanks,  My parts on their way from MI and FL so hopefully next week my little HS35 will be in a running shape.  The Honda shop says spending on 80-100 for parts are not that bad if the engine is running good as it is a good machine.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #16   Nov 17, 2011 11:55 am
blumonster wrote:
Compared to two-stroke Toros I heard, it is quieter.

The newer Toro 221Q is louder than a 4 stroke, but it has a nice sound.  I like how it sounds when there's load on it.

I don't know what engine is on a Snapper LE19, maybe an old Tecumseh, but it is loud and obnoxious.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #17   Nov 17, 2011 11:57 am
MN_Runner wrote:
thanks,  My parts on their way from MI and FL so hopefully next week my little HS35 will be in a running shape.  The Honda shop says spending on 80-100 for parts are not that bad if the engine is running good as it is a good machine.

Got any pics of the HS35 as is before the makeover? 
blumonster


Location: Wisc.
Joined: Oct 14, 2011
Points: 163

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #18   Nov 17, 2011 2:13 pm
mobiledynamics wrote:
Hey Blu -

I applaud you for putting so much into the HS35. The chassis is a monster + build.
Between the service manual, and the expensive toolkit....how much are you ~in~ on that 35....

I would think for all that money you're investing, maybe you're better off buying a newer single stage that will have a better design and more power..



Oh, thanks mobiledynamics :)

I did not count but probably around 200 dollars including the 80 dollars I paid the previous owner.For the shop manual I paid only 12.50 including shipping.The tools were not expensive.7.50 in total, including shipping.I bought aftermarket auger paddles but OEM scraper.Some bolts,washers,plates,PB blaster etc. I have not bought each and every bolt,washer,collar though. I thought about buying collars for example.But they cost 2-3 dollars each and there are 24 of them.

It is my first snow blower, it was made in Japan.I trust them.Of course it is a very old machine but the newly made anything tends to be less in quality and reliability.

I thought about getting Poulan Pro single stage for 300 dollars but the engine is from China, I am sure the construction too is flimsy.Even if there is some rust on HS35's auger housing/auger I can sand it,primer it and paint it.As long as the engine works the rest can be taken care of since the rust is not bad.

mobiledynamics


Joined: Oct 1, 2011
Points: 81

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #19   Nov 17, 2011 2:42 pm
I hear ya blu.

Anyone on this forum is a enthusiest.....and we're probably picking the finer details on things.
For all intents and purpose, I was just saying at the $$$ you got into it, a cheaper machine which probably has more power will do you justice.
Afterall,  who cares about the fluffy stuff. You can move that with a shovel. It's all that other stuff in between, where instead of backbreaking work, it's the power of the sb that is doing the job for you.


The engine afterall, like most decent cars, will last much longer than the other components.......ya know.

I'd just hate for you to get caught up on the HS35 of yours when you're better served with any SS that has more power at the end of the day.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #20   Nov 17, 2011 4:34 pm
mobiledynamics wrote:
I'd just hate for you to get caught up on the HS35 of yours when you're better served with any SS that has more power at the end of the day.

I almost abought a HS35 last year.  It's an credibly well built machine.  After pricing out things to replace, it came out to be quite expensive.  A lot of HS35 parts are obsoleted too.

Since I just recently put in some time and money restoring an HS621, getting another old machine to restore wasn't in the cards at the time.

I know it's a lot of money when you could run out to the big box store and buy a new 208cc snowblower for less than $400, but it could never have the same appeal as a restored HS35, HS621, or a Toro 3650 (Suzuki powered) single stage snowblowers.

At the end of the day, it's not just about power.  I have a 2 stage snowblower that throws snow well and can dig me out of big storms, but these older single stage machines are quite fun to use and work on.
blumonster


Location: Wisc.
Joined: Oct 14, 2011
Points: 163

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #21   Nov 17, 2011 5:12 pm
mobiledynamics wrote:
I hear ya blu.

Anyone on this forum is a enthusiest.....and we're probably picking the finer details on things.
For all intents and purpose, I was just saying at the $$$ you got into it, a cheaper machine which probably has more power will do you justice.
Afterall,  who cares about the fluffy stuff. You can move that with a shovel. It's all that other stuff in between, where instead of backbreaking work, it's the power of the sb that is doing the job for you.


The engine afterall, like most decent cars, will last much longer than the other components.......ya know.

I'd just hate for you to get caught up on the HS35 of yours when you're better served with any SS that has more power at the end of the day.



You have got a point.I might end up regretting it but like aa335 says it is also fun (so far) dealing with it.Like having something of historical importance in hand.Of course I expect it to blow snow too :D

When you are good to your car/equipment I think they understand you, they do their best not to disappoint you. :) I am hoping...

If it does not work I have the other antique Honda HS621.If that does not work then I might think go back to square one and think about buying brand new brittle machines.

mobiledynamics


Joined: Oct 1, 2011
Points: 81

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #22   Nov 17, 2011 5:32 pm
I've got 2 HS621's under my belt.....so I concur in some aspects.

Methinks you might get more bang for the buck in terms of time/value on getting the 621 back up to speed.
Then work on the 35....
blumonster


Location: Wisc.
Joined: Oct 14, 2011
Points: 163

Re: How Loud is Your Single Stage Snowblower?
Reply #23   Nov 17, 2011 6:23 pm
Just came back from the garage.I had sprayed PB blaster on the bolts yesterday.I broke one bolt already.I was hoping to replace paddles.I have not done this before.One socket wrench and a fitting socket was not enough.I do not have a box wrench that size.So the job is unfinished,not even started. :(

Just a look at the control part...all three knobs together side by side.Chute control handle is close to the knobs.HS621 does not even have that handle/lever.Fuel shut off valve is close to the bottom.

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