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stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
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Odd question
Original Message   Nov 13, 2011 9:12 pm
Let me ask a question, suppose you have four snow blowers side by side all the same width, horsepower, etc. What makes one better then the other? Forget plastic chute vs steel, forget the power steering, heated grips, reliability, etc,etc. I am talking about moving snow......will say a 3k Honda have tighter auger clearances and make for moving more snow? Just trying to understand the huge variance in snow blowe prices.

If all machines are side by side with equal output engines will will say 9hp Honda move more snow then say a 9hp craftsman with a Tecumseh?

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royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Odd question
Reply #12   Nov 14, 2011 8:00 pm
   I have a  Husqvarna  27 inch with the Briggs (USA built engine ) 305, 14.5 torque  With hydrostatic drive.  Purchased ed in Feb 2011    

My next door neighbour has a John Deere  27 inch with a Briggs (USA  built engine)   305 , 14.5 torque with disc drive. Purchased in January 2011.

We  had a lot of heavy storms  last winter, and were able to compare  the 2 snowblowers.

Just clearing the level drifted driveway, there wasn't much difference ,Except I was always travelling faster and always finished before he did.   

Now the end of the driveway :     With my Husqvarna with the hydro drive , I was able to go through the heavy  snow from the snowplow with one pass. The engine speed and sound was consistent.

With his John Deere , he couldnt get through without pushing , backing up and jerking his machine  , finally getting through the heavy snow. His engine speed was reving up and down on the governor and making a loud racket.

I dont know what the impeller speed of each machine but  both machines have a 12 inch impeller and a 12 inch auger.   There were no slipping belts on the Simplicity John Deere.

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mikiewest


Joined: Dec 29, 2007
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Re: Odd question
Reply #13   Nov 14, 2011 8:28 pm
60 feet Steve??I think your fudging the numbers just a bit.And yes I have seen you on youtube.If thats 60 ft then,I'd like to know what measuring tape you are using.Also someone else questioned your measuring technique that saw your video..So Im not alone....
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Odd question
Reply #14   Nov 14, 2011 8:51 pm
How well the machine is designed, build tolerance and balance will determine how well it performs. 

If that JD was built by Simplicity and had trouble with end of driveway snow, then I'd say there's something wrong with it.  Probably a slipping belt.   Here's a couple pics of my Simplicity 928 in action I've posted before.  Not quite 60 ft.  More like forty.  My previously owned Craftsman machine would be lucky to throw half that distance.


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sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
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Re: Odd question
Reply #15   Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm
mikiewest wrote:
60 feet Steve??I think your fudging the numbers just a bit.And yes I have seen you on youtube.If thats 60 ft then,I'd like to know what measuring tape you are using.Also someone else questioned your measuring technique that saw your video..So Im not alone....

This is 20 feet:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SteveCebu?blend=1&ob=5

not that there is anything wrong with that! ;)
but seriously..its 20 feet.

Scot
stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
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Re: Odd question
Reply #16   Nov 14, 2011 10:12 pm
Thank you all for your reply's! Great thread IMO!

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Steve_Cebu


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Re: Odd question
Reply #17   Nov 14, 2011 11:05 pm
mikiewest wrote:
60 feet Steve??I think your fudging the numbers just a bit.And yes I have seen you on youtube.If thats 60 ft then,I'd like to know what measuring tape you are using.Also someone else questioned your measuring technique that saw your video..So Im not alone....



Yes I know someone questioned it online. I also used a 50 foot tape measure and when that ran out I marked where the tape ended and then I measured to the furthest point that it threw it. This is powder and it's not throwing against the wind. So it stands at 61 feet. I think no matter what I use to measure the distance someone will question how far it is.

So if you have some foolproof way of measuring so that no one will question it I'm listening. For me a tape measure works just fine.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Odd question
Reply #18   Nov 14, 2011 11:10 pm
sscotsman wrote:
This is 20 feet:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SteveCebu?blend=1&ob=5

not that there is anything wrong with that! ;)
but seriously..its 20 feet.

Scot



Yes it's also not the video in question either. That video was very heavy wet snow from this October.

The video where it threw 61 feet was with the chute facing forward is this one. I was out there with the tape measure myself, so I know how far it threw it. It was throwing onto fresh powder so it was real easy to see where the snow was coming down. I got soaked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va7J5zDk4e0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJh9bgt3yi8

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


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Points: 2434

Re: Odd question
Reply #19   Nov 14, 2011 11:14 pm
Looks like 59.867 feet unassisted.  I think the wind helped carry it along to 61 feet. 
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Odd question
Reply #20   Nov 14, 2011 11:20 pm
aa335 wrote:
Looks like 59.867 feet unassisted.  I think the wind helped carry it along to 61 feet. 



You can see the wind what little there was was blowing a bit to the left. I measured it straight on, at 50 feet I was being buried in snow, the outer edge was 61 feet.

I was curious to see how far it was throwing it but this was very light powder. If it had been heavy snow it would not have thrown it that far.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Odd question
Reply #21   Nov 15, 2011 6:14 pm
60 feet,    but why is it  so important that the snow is moved this far, wouldn't 30 feet do the job.  I think it is more important how  your snowblower handles the snowplowed snow  at the end of the driveway. However your neighbour might be impressed if he is  down wind, and you are filling up his driveway.

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