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stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Points: 213

Odd question
Original Message   Nov 13, 2011 9:12 pm
Let me ask a question, suppose you have four snow blowers side by side all the same width, horsepower, etc. What makes one better then the other? Forget plastic chute vs steel, forget the power steering, heated grips, reliability, etc,etc. I am talking about moving snow......will say a 3k Honda have tighter auger clearances and make for moving more snow? Just trying to understand the huge variance in snow blowe prices.

If all machines are side by side with equal output engines will will say 9hp Honda move more snow then say a 9hp craftsman with a Tecumseh?

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blumonster


Location: Wisc.
Joined: Oct 14, 2011
Points: 163

Re: Odd question
Reply #10   Nov 14, 2011 2:12 pm
From shoveling for 2 years I 'upgraded' to single stage 3.5 and 6 hp machines.There are 2 stage machines with 10-13 hp.At the end all of these do the same thing, some take longer,some are painful. LOL
manjestic


Location: North Shore, MA
Joined: Oct 31, 2011
Points: 87

Re: Odd question
Reply #11   Nov 14, 2011 4:49 pm
Yeah, this is kind of an open-ended question.  It's somewhat subjective, based on what's important to you.  Do you want something that just gets the job done?  What about ease of use, reliability, parts availability, warrantee, longevity?  It's like plumbing.  You can buy a German-made faucet that will easily outlast you or I, and you will pay for it.  Or you can buy something cheap that works great for a couple of years and then starts to leak.  You can't get parts for it and you have to pull the damn thing out and replace it.

Some folks value the name...to show off.  Whatever floats your boat.

I ask myself (most times) could I get away with something less expensive, still be satisfied and put the savings to better use?  Perhaps education or investment or food?  ;)  I traded up this fall from a 12-year old MTD to a 18-year old Ariens.  Yes, traded up, in my mind, based on what was important to me.  I went down in HP, 10 to 8.  Down in auger housing size, 30 to 24.  But I got a machine that is reliable, balanced and parts are everywhere.  This machine should last another 18 years.

I went down the path of buying a new one in the $1500 - 1600 range.  A new Simplicity, Toro or Ariens would have been great but I had better uses for the money.  Plus, I'm having fun and learning something about restoration and myself as I do so.
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Odd question
Reply #12   Nov 14, 2011 8:00 pm
   I have a  Husqvarna  27 inch with the Briggs (USA built engine ) 305, 14.5 torque  With hydrostatic drive.  Purchased ed in Feb 2011    

My next door neighbour has a John Deere  27 inch with a Briggs (USA  built engine)   305 , 14.5 torque with disc drive. Purchased in January 2011.

We  had a lot of heavy storms  last winter, and were able to compare  the 2 snowblowers.

Just clearing the level drifted driveway, there wasn't much difference ,Except I was always travelling faster and always finished before he did.   

Now the end of the driveway :     With my Husqvarna with the hydro drive , I was able to go through the heavy  snow from the snowplow with one pass. The engine speed and sound was consistent.

With his John Deere , he couldnt get through without pushing , backing up and jerking his machine  , finally getting through the heavy snow. His engine speed was reving up and down on the governor and making a loud racket.

I dont know what the impeller speed of each machine but  both machines have a 12 inch impeller and a 12 inch auger.   There were no slipping belts on the Simplicity John Deere.

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mikiewest


Joined: Dec 29, 2007
Points: 262

Re: Odd question
Reply #13   Nov 14, 2011 8:28 pm
60 feet Steve??I think your fudging the numbers just a bit.And yes I have seen you on youtube.If thats 60 ft then,I'd like to know what measuring tape you are using.Also someone else questioned your measuring technique that saw your video..So Im not alone....
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Odd question
Reply #14   Nov 14, 2011 8:51 pm
How well the machine is designed, build tolerance and balance will determine how well it performs. 

If that JD was built by Simplicity and had trouble with end of driveway snow, then I'd say there's something wrong with it.  Probably a slipping belt.   Here's a couple pics of my Simplicity 928 in action I've posted before.  Not quite 60 ft.  More like forty.  My previously owned Craftsman machine would be lucky to throw half that distance.


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sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
Points: 56

Re: Odd question
Reply #15   Nov 14, 2011 8:58 pm
mikiewest wrote:
60 feet Steve??I think your fudging the numbers just a bit.And yes I have seen you on youtube.If thats 60 ft then,I'd like to know what measuring tape you are using.Also someone else questioned your measuring technique that saw your video..So Im not alone....

This is 20 feet:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SteveCebu?blend=1&ob=5

not that there is anything wrong with that! ;)
but seriously..its 20 feet.

Scot
stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Points: 213

Re: Odd question
Reply #16   Nov 14, 2011 10:12 pm
Thank you all for your reply's! Great thread IMO!

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Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Odd question
Reply #17   Nov 14, 2011 11:05 pm
mikiewest wrote:
60 feet Steve??I think your fudging the numbers just a bit.And yes I have seen you on youtube.If thats 60 ft then,I'd like to know what measuring tape you are using.Also someone else questioned your measuring technique that saw your video..So Im not alone....



Yes I know someone questioned it online. I also used a 50 foot tape measure and when that ran out I marked where the tape ended and then I measured to the furthest point that it threw it. This is powder and it's not throwing against the wind. So it stands at 61 feet. I think no matter what I use to measure the distance someone will question how far it is.

So if you have some foolproof way of measuring so that no one will question it I'm listening. For me a tape measure works just fine.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Odd question
Reply #18   Nov 14, 2011 11:10 pm
sscotsman wrote:
This is 20 feet:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SteveCebu?blend=1&ob=5

not that there is anything wrong with that! ;)
but seriously..its 20 feet.

Scot



Yes it's also not the video in question either. That video was very heavy wet snow from this October.

The video where it threw 61 feet was with the chute facing forward is this one. I was out there with the tape measure myself, so I know how far it threw it. It was throwing onto fresh powder so it was real easy to see where the snow was coming down. I got soaked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va7J5zDk4e0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJh9bgt3yi8

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Odd question
Reply #19   Nov 14, 2011 11:14 pm
Looks like 59.867 feet unassisted.  I think the wind helped carry it along to 61 feet. 
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