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manjestic


Location: North Shore, MA
Joined: Oct 31, 2011
Points: 87

Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Original Message   Oct 31, 2011 10:28 am
Hi, all.  Great site.  Everyone in the Northeast survive the latest Mother Nature Halloween prank?

I acquired an ST824 with low hours.  I inspected the whole thing, replacing fuel lines, spark plug, belts, did a carb rebuild.  Lubed and adjusted everything.  It appears that the impeller shaft is spinning on the bearing (and the bearing is not).  I split the attachment from the tractor but still can't get the belt pulley to free from the impeller shaft.  The impeller appears to have one of the "blades" bent back about a half an inch or so.  Anyone offer any help to taking the pulley off to get access to the bearing?

Hopefully the shaft is not worn in that area.

Here's the part:
05406300 Bearing-Ball 0.750 x 1.750 x 0.50

Model 924082 (Serial #031226)

Thanks for any advice.

By the way, my resurrected 18-year old Toro CCR1000 performed well with the slush yesterday.  Love that little ball of hate, single stage machine.
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manjestic


Location: North Shore, MA
Joined: Oct 31, 2011
Points: 87

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #9   Nov 10, 2011 10:59 am
I appreciate all the detail.

I've removed the three nuts that secure the pulley to the hub.  I've been soaking the hub and pulley with penetrating oil for about two weeks now an cannot get the pulley to separate from the hub using caveman techniques.  I'm going to rig up a puller, if I can locate one at one of the local auto parts chains via the tool loaner programs.  I was looking at something called a harmonic balancer pulley puller.  Not sure what's so harmonic about it but, hey...
manjestic


Location: North Shore, MA
Joined: Oct 31, 2011
Points: 87

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #10   Nov 11, 2011 11:29 pm
Holy shnikeys!  That was a beeyach!  But I finally got the hub off.  The pulley is still frozen to the hub.  I went to Autozone and picked up a harmonic balancer pulley puller and some 5/16" coupler nuts at the hardware store.  I screwed the coupler bolts into the pan head bolts that go through the hub to hold the pulley to the hub.  Then I screwed the bolts that come with the puller to the coupler nuts and started turning.  I heated the hub with a propane torch.  Finally the thing made a loud bang moved a smidge on the shaft.  Little by little, loud bang by loud bang the hub finally came off. 

I was right.  The bearing was toast.  Thankfully, the shaft does not appear to be worn very much.  Perhaps some epoxy or Loctite will keep the new bearing inner race in tight contact with the shaft.

When I put the hub back on you can bet I'll use plenty of anti-seize compound.  Anyone have a favorite place to get a replacement bearing?  How about the auger bushings?
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #11   Nov 12, 2011 4:12 am
MFGSupply is probably the cheapest.
You could also try Jack's Small Engines or Amazon.

The bearing would probably be cheaper from a bearing supply place since it is a common size and they charge more for the "Ariens" ones.

I'd go for 1 of these:
http://www.mfgsupply.com/snowblower/snowblowerariens/9-487-h2.html

2 of these:
http://www.mfgsupply.com/snowblower/snowblowerariens/9-8446.html

5-10 of these:
http://www.mfgsupply.com/snowblower/snowblowerariens/41-916.html

Make sure the augers are not rusted to the shaft too.  Otherwise the shear bolts are kind of useless.

While you are at it check the drive train for excessive wear too.   I have been noticing a lot of posts recently about people with Ariens blowers with the drive axle and sprocket bushings/bearings so wore out that the gears are slipping.  If you use jackssmallengines.com, put the part numbers into their search box as they only list the common stuff they stock, but they can order most anything.  Jack's search requires the leading 0 and trailing two 0s on the Ariens part numbers.  They added those somewhat recently so to convert the old part numbers and new part numbers just add the zeroes.  If you are doing internet searches search for both ways as some places list one way and some places list the other.  (55035 = 05503500)

And if you are feeling adventurous you could try one of these:
Impeller Kit
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jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #12   Nov 12, 2011 1:06 pm
Ariens used two different types of bearings for the impeller.  One looks like a regular bearing where the outer circumference surface of the bearing is flat. 
The other type has a slight curve to it.  It's higher in the center of the race.  If you have the first type you can get one at Fastenal.  I just bought one there last week
I think it was like $.4.50.  If you have the curved type you'll have to buy the Ariens part online or from a dealer.
manjestic


Location: North Shore, MA
Joined: Oct 31, 2011
Points: 87

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #13   Nov 13, 2011 10:23 pm
Man, I thought getting the bearing out was tough.  Narrowing down a specific bearing is proving to be tougher.  It is a standard sized bearing, readily available.  And that is the issue; it is available everywhere and priced all over the map.  It was a pain to get at the bearing so I don't want to have to replace it any time soon but I also don't want to overpay for the part either.

The generic part number is 1635-2RS.  The price range is ~$7 shipped on eBay to over $50 + shipping for a genuine Toro part.

Am I over analyzing this?  Something says to just get the cheap one as in won't be as tough to disassemble this the next time.
jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #14   Nov 14, 2011 7:52 am
manjestic wrote:
The generic part number is 1635-2RS.  The price range is ~$7 shipped on eBay to over $50 + shipping for a genuine Toro part.
Am I over analyzing this?  Something says to just get the cheap one as in won't be as tough to disassemble this the next time.

"Am I over analyzing this"?  Maybe.  A less expensive bearing off ebay doesn't automatically mean that it is a cheaper grade bearing than Toro sells.
Toro is getting their bearings from someone else and putting their name on it, so to speak.  If you have a Fastenal store near you they sell the bearing.
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manjestic


Location: North Shore, MA
Joined: Oct 31, 2011
Points: 87

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #15   Nov 14, 2011 8:37 am
Thanks. Looks like these stores are in my area. For that price I'll buy a spare.
manjestic


Location: North Shore, MA
Joined: Oct 31, 2011
Points: 87

Re: Ariens 924082 impeller bearing replacement
Reply #16   Nov 14, 2011 10:50 pm
I checked out Fastenal.  There are many stores in my area.  Unfortunately, they all close at 5PM.  What's the deal?  Are these retail centers or wholesalers?  I started to create an online account and got impatient.  Went to eBay and picked up two bearings for $9.99 shipped.
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