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stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
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Anyone own an Ariens ST28DLE??
Original Message   Oct 5, 2011 9:38 pm
I didnt even know this model existed! When I seen how big this motor is in a 28" width I almost $#%* myself! lol I thouht this mountain motor only came in 36"+ wide units.

How does this thing turn? How does the power steering compare to that of a Toro?

This message was modified Oct 7, 2011 by stresst


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jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
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Re: Anyone own an Ariens ST28DLE??
Reply #15   Oct 10, 2011 8:07 pm
I have an older Ariens ST1032.  Which has the lockable hub on the left side and the axle differential unit.  Which does function like a limited slip car rear end and as it has been described here.
I think I have only locked the axle maybe twice in the last two years  When the hub is in the locked position both wheels spin at the same speed. Which makes it a real bear to turn.
Actually it won't turn you have to drag it to turn it.
With the hub unlocked I can literally make a 180 degree turn with little effort, I've done it one handed.  If I'm in first or second gear I can turn left and almost keep the left wheel planted and simply pivot around it. While the right wheel drives the blower around.  If I'm in a higher gear I'd have to almost run to keep up with it as it turns. The only situation that locking in the axle would probably be useful in. Would be trying to blow deep snow going up a rather steep incline. Or simply driving the blower through deep snow. I've never had a traction problem with the hub unlocked regardless of the snow depth. Just my observations.
stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
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Re: Anyone own an Ariens ST28DLE??
Reply #16   Oct 10, 2011 8:35 pm
Very interesting thread.........Seems the Toro is King as far as the power steering goes.....

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slinger


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Re: Anyone own an Ariens ST28DLE??
Reply #17   Oct 10, 2011 10:35 pm
I've got an Ariens Platinum with ATC, and I have also used a friend's Toro.  I found the Toro to be able to turn sharper turns more easily than my Ariens. The ATC works, it's just that the Toro seemed to give me more control over the turn with less effort once you spend a few minutes getting used to the trigger controls.  I'm fine with the Ariens' ATC though. 
aa335


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Re: Anyone own an Ariens ST28DLE??
Reply #18   Oct 10, 2011 10:49 pm
stresst wrote:
Very interesting thread.........Seems the Toro is King as far as the power steering goes.....

Ariens is the king of snow.    I don't see anything wrong with Toro being king of powersteering.
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coasteray


El Toro! 1028 LXE
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Location: NE Washington State
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Re: Anyone own an Ariens ST28DLE??
Reply #19   Oct 15, 2011 5:22 am
slinger wrote:
I've got an Ariens Platinum with ATC, and I have also used a friend's Toro.  I found the Toro to be able to turn sharper turns more easily than my Ariens. The ATC works, it's just that the Toro seemed to give me more control over the turn with less effort once you spend a few minutes getting used to the trigger controls.  I'm fine with the Ariens' ATC though. 

Also:
mvedepo wrote:
I am picking up the Pro 28.  The ATC is not powersteering.   IN FACT it's harder to steer under power than the Toro.  The difference is that when you are turning under power the OUTSIDE wheel released and the INSIDE wheel is powered.  Not ideal for turning.  The thought process on the ATC is to keep the machine going straight.

The ATC is "better" in theory because it's a "traction control"  If you start spinning a wheel it takes power away from it.  Also if you take on snow that unevenly distributed and it causes the blower to pull to the left it will take power away from the right wheel and only power the left in essence trying to keep the machine straight.  Thats it in theory.  In the real world I have no idea how well it works. 

I've got an Ariens ST824 (1993 model year), and I really like the real differential action on that, just like with a car. It's so easy in turning, even sharp turns.  Of course, with the knob on the left wheel, I can always convert it to a straight-forward locked two-wheel drive. 

Now with the ATC (Automatic Traction Control) feature on the last few years of  Ariens models, I am wondering just how hard it is to make those sharp turns.

I've used a Husqvarna snow blower at one of the schools I work at, so I know how the trigger release feels when turning either direction.  It's not as smooth as the old Ariens differential, but you can ease your way into a turn by pulling the trigger lever over and over again to avoid the sudden turn action due to that one wheel disengaging if you just pull the trigger and don't let go of it right away.
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