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mvedepo


Joined: Oct 1, 2011
Points: 32

Torn between Ariens 30's and Toro 1028OXE
Original Message   Oct 1, 2011 4:48 pm
Having a tough time deciding between the:
  • Ariens 30 Deluxe
  • Ariens 30 Platinum
  • Toro 1028OXE

I don't have a huge driveway but I am on the outside of a curve and get HAMMERED by the plow.  It's not uncommon to get a 30+" berm at the end of my driveway.   And being from southern WI it's rarely the light fluffy stuff.   The catch here is that I am a pilot so sometimes I am on the road when we get pounded (Murphy's Law).  This means that my wife (5' 105") wife needs to be able to maneuver the beast.  She doesn't need to do a ton of turning.  She will mostly be going down the drive and reversing back.   Throwing distance is also important to me.  

Here are my likes and dislikes:

  • Ariens 30 Deluxe - I like: crank chute and price. 
  • Ariens 30 Platinum - I like: 342cc engine - Torn on the ATC and chute control
  • Toro 1028OXE - I like: Chute/deflector stick,  how light and maneuverable it is, the power triggers, 305 cc in a 28" unit.  I dislike: Some of the components feel flimsy.  Especially the triggers and Powerstick.
I am leaning towards the Platinum but no one, even at the dealers, can really explain the ATC to me.  When the drive isn't engaged and you pop open the diff do both wheels rotate freely?  If not is it the inner or outer wheel?  If the drive IS engaged will the ATC help or fight you if you are trying to do a 180 turn?  I have read conflicting reports on this. 


May also consider a Simplicity L1528E or L1730E but haven't actually seen these units.



What do you guys think??
 
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Torn between Ariens 30's and Toro 1028OXE
Reply #9   Oct 3, 2011 1:18 am
mvedepo wrote:
Now if we go with a 28 Deluxe, it has the 250cc engine, same as the 24 Deluxe/Platinum.   Is that engine undersized for a 28?? 

Also if I could order a Husqvarna 14527E that seems like it may be the best of all words for me.

  • 305 cc
  • Hydrostatic
  • Power steering (similar to the Toro)
  • High Speed Impeller
My question is the disc style auger.  Any benefit?  I see its only on their higher end Crown Series.



250cc for 28" is slightly underpowered in general.  It is very underpowered compared to the new machines sporting 300cc+, anemic compared to the Ariens Pro 28 sporting 414cc.

The Husqvarna model you are interested in does not have hydrostatic transmission.  That style of auger doesn't seem too aggressive on chipping ice and breaking down hard packed snow.  Check out Honda and Yamaha high end snowblowers, they still have the open type ribbon augers with very aggressive saw tooth serrated auger.  It can chip concrete while sharpening itself.  Don't ask me how I know.
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Torn between Ariens 30's and Toro 1028OXE
Reply #10   Oct 3, 2011 8:09 am
"She has been to the dealer. The Toro 1028OXE was by far the easiest for her to maneuver. However, she wasn't keen on the build over the Ariens."

Sounds like you found the perfect snowblower for your needs in the Toro 1028OXE. A 10 HP engine with a 28" bucket should provide plenty of power and maneuverability especially with the power assist steering that your wife will appreciate. What is it about the build quality that concerns her on the Toro? Trying to find an easy to use machine your wife can operate and the snow eating animal that you want is going to be tough to find. Once again, to me it sounds like the well balanced Toro 1028OXE fits most if not all of your requirements.

This message was modified Oct 3, 2011 by FrankMA


Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Points: 213

Re: Torn between Ariens 30's and Toro 1028OXE
Reply #11   Oct 3, 2011 8:37 pm
Or if you want a tracked model with a huge engine check out the Husqvarna 1827EXLT! I wish I could borrow a tracked blower for a weekend to see what there all about. I would be all over this baby! 414cc with a 27" bucket! This will give the Honda some serious competition! Actually I dont know how the Honda would keep up??

TORO 826OXE
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Torn between Ariens 30's and Toro 1028OXE
Reply #12   Oct 3, 2011 10:52 pm
stresst wrote:
Or if you want a tracked model with a huge engine check out the Husqvarna 1827EXLT! I wish I could borrow a tracked blower for a weekend to see what there all about. I would be all over this baby! 414cc with a 27" bucket! This will give the Honda some serious competition! Actually I dont know how the Honda would keep up??

The Honda wouldn't have any trouble keeping up.  In fact, any snowblower doesn't have any trouble keeping up at all.

The overzealous Husky owner with 400+cc monster engine will forge forward with the invincibility of a Titanic cruiseliner.  With such vigor and confidence, it will meet face to face with a frozen newspaper, kids toys, rocks, or edge of a curb, or unknown objects.  If the shear pins don't break in time, those nice shiny stamped augers either break or entwined themselves with the impeller with such determination that special extraction equipment such as a torch and profanity will be called in to undo the stupidity and arrogance.

Meanwhile, other snowblowers marches on steady but surely.
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FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Torn between Ariens 30's and Toro 1028OXE
Reply #13   Oct 4, 2011 7:15 am
stresst wrote:
Or if you want a tracked model with a huge engine check out the Husqvarna 1827EXLT! I wish I could borrow a tracked blower for a weekend to see what there all about. I would be all over this baby! 414cc with a 27" bucket! This will give the Honda some serious competition! Actually I dont know how the Honda would keep up??

I'd love to hear some feedback on these models to see if they perform well and live up to the expectations of the purchaser. Having gone from a 6 HP to a 9 HP last year, I see no practical reason why the average homeowner would need anything larger than a 10 HP engine and a 30" bucket maximum. We got hammered in New England last season and I never had any issues with my 9 HP, 28" bucket 2 stage. For that matter, my old 6 HP with a 24" bucket never had any issues either that slowing down the forward speed did not cure. It may have taken a little bit more time but it got the job done.
This message was modified Oct 4, 2011 by FrankMA


Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Torn between Ariens 30's and Toro 1028OXE
Reply #14   Oct 9, 2011 7:49 pm
mvedepo wrote:
She has been to the dealer.  The Toro 1028OXE was by far the easiest for her to maneuver.  However, she wasn't keen on the build over the Ariens.  Now if we go with a 28 Deluxe, it has the 250cc engine, same as the 24 Deluxe/Platinum.   Is that engine undersized for a 28?? 

Also if I could order a Husqvarna 14527E that seems like it may be the best of all words for me.

  • 305 cc
  • Hydrostatic
  • Power steering (similar to the Toro)
  • High Speed Impeller
My question is the disc style auger.  Any benefit?  I see its only on their higher end Crown Series.


Well I have the Toro 1028OXE and my wife is 84 lbs. and she has no problem using the Toro. This will be our 3rd yaer with the Toro and it looks like it will need a belt adjustment as a christmas wreath made up mostly of wire got pulled in and apparantly I ran it for a long time before realizing the auger was clogged up It never snaped a shear pin. I pryed it out and it was a bit down on throw power so the dealer is tuning it up. The controls need to be adjusted every year. Everything is as solid as when we bought it. It's thrown 2-3" chunks of loose granite 20-30 feet and still works like new. It ate a lot of plastic fence that is hidden under the snow, although I was careful you just can't see it with 20" of snow on a 10" high plastic fence.

So it's very durable and we have videos on YouTube of my wife starting it with 1 pull first time in the season.

I always hear that Toro's aren't reliable but I don't hear that from anyone who owns one.

New videos this year as I have a full HD camcorder.

This message was modified Oct 9, 2011 by Steve_Cebu


"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
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