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joed


Joined: Sep 1, 2008
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Is toro no longer making a 2 stroke single stage snowblower: 221Q
Original Message   Sep 3, 2011 10:06 pm
I looked at toro's website and I can not find any 2 stroke single stage snowblowers.   Have they stopped producing them this year?
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Is toro no longer making a 2 stroke single stage snowblower: 221Q
Reply #1   Sep 3, 2011 10:33 pm
Yes, that's official.  No more Toro 221's, or the 421's.  Actually, they have a new name convention now.  The 421's are now called the 621.  This is same convention as everyone else in the snowblower business.  HP - Width.
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: Is toro no longer making a 2 stroke single stage snowblower: 221Q
Reply #2   Sep 4, 2011 7:06 pm
Sad but true.  I'm certainly glad that I bought a new 221QE last January.   I also have two other older SS machines that I've massaged to be more useful.  One is a Craftsman (Murray) and the other is an MTD.   Both are powered by 139cc Tecumseh two cycle engines which I over-speed to get them to make more power.  The Craftsman responds well to the added power but the MTD is too light and gets real skittish when the speeds are too high.  Both will throw snow if I put the power to them but not nearly as well as the Toro. 
aa335


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Re: Is toro no longer making a 2 stroke single stage snowblower: 221Q
Reply #3   Sep 5, 2011 10:41 am
On a positive note, the demands for 2-stroke snowblower will be higher and will help out those who are in the business of fixing up snowblower and flipping them for money.
joed


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Re: Is toro no longer making a 2 stroke single stage snowblower: 221Q
Reply #4   Sep 11, 2011 8:59 pm
How well has the 163 cc 4 stroke engine performed in the Toro single stage model?  Is it any good?
aa335


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Re: Is toro no longer making a 2 stroke single stage snowblower: 221Q
Reply #5   Sep 13, 2011 9:37 am
joed wrote:
How well has the 163 cc 4 stroke engine performed in the Toro single stage model?  Is it any good?

I have last year's model, the 421QE with a Loncin 4 stroke engine.  I'm very happy with it.  Performance of the engine is what it should be for 160cc engine.  It may pale a little bit in comparison with the new crop of B&S variants sporting 203cc engine.

The overall package of the Toro is more refined than the B&S, but it does carry a higher price premium.
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