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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Yamaha YS624W fixup
Original Message   Apr 9, 2011 11:08 am
Picked up a beatup YS624W which needed work.  It came with a matted mouse nest in the tractor base and a worn through impeller barrel due to tossing rocks.  The rusted sections on the right and left of the barrel bottom are pushed out about 1/2 -3/4 of an inch.  The main drive gear support post and flange bearings were also worn (pictures below).

The impeller area diameter is only 10.5 inches and has a whole worn through.  The worn an pushed out sections are in the forward part of the lower barrel.  A sheet of steel was installed with rivets.  The machine is an impressive tosser and due to it's high impeller speed and powerful engine that does not sag much under load so able to keep up the RPMs.

A nice feature is a class viewing window to check the oil level.  Note the heavy cast iron oil catch whch is part of the bracket for the engine support mount.

The impeller arms are mishapen and the plate also distorted but not as bad as the picture shows.  The bent area is due to camera angle distortion.  Note that the impeller diameter is 10 inches.

Got the impeller back into reasonable shape and put on some Rustoleum.

The muffler was rusted but the metal solid so taken off, wire brushed and painted with hight temp paint. 

Muffler heat shield and air box covers painted.  Muffler in much better shape.

The engine sits on motor mounts about 1/2 in above the tractor base.  Two big rubber mounts on standoffs support the mounts which are connected to the engine cover by heavy brackets.  The left facing bracket has a rusted section at the L bend.  It's cracked at the rust area for almost it's entire lengts.  I've had about 6 of these machines and two have had broken motor mount brackets.  The other was on an 828 base bracket but both 6 and 8 hp machine use the same bracket.  2 out of 6 with broken brackets makes me suspect that the brackets may be a weak point in the design.  I did not notice on the other machine if the brackets were broken or cracked but they may have been. 

Note the brackets are mounted to the engine front cover which is made of very thick aluminum about twice the thickness of a Tecumseh cover.  It's also very nicely machined. 

Rear engine mounts.

The engine is raised up off the base about 3/4 of an inch, enough to snake a cable underneath.

Wheel drive gears are enclosed in a case which mounts to the tractor base side.  Note the grease is well spread on the gears.  There are voids in the case but the paste grease still got around somehow.  BUT, notice the center of the primary gear on the left.  It's mounted on a post with flange bearings on both sides.  The flange bearings were completely worn away.  There were no traces of the flange bearings in the case.  They had been ground to a powder and mixed into the grease. 

The gearcase cleaned up.  Note the roller bearings in the case.  You can see the primary gear support post is heavily worn out of shape.  The post is a tight fit so pops out and only a few dollar part.  The post may be a weak point in the design due to not getting any grease.  The flange bearings on the primary are very thin and do not have self contained oil so they don't get lub'ed.  The gase does have a gasket so fitting a new gasket and adding sealer might be tried in hopes it will hold liquid grease.  A screw hold can be added to the top for dumping in liquid grease.  The primary gear center section was worn so bad it had to be replaced, $89.  The teeth of both gears were fine so the paste grease fine there but did not help much for the center section and post.  All in all it lasted about 26 years so not bad but having lub would be better.

Nice engine with lots of power.  Note no crankshaft going out of the block.  The drive is from the camshaft PTO.  The engine runs at 4000 rpmon the 6hp and 3850-3900 on the 8hp.  The PTO runs at 2000 RPM.  The rakes I think run at 300 and the impeller 1400 or so.  These engines are very nice and do not sag much under load compared to a Tecumseh.  They are at least equal to a Honda GX and probably better.  Note the black rubber mounts on top to dampen gas tank vibration.  The tank has 4 posts and set into the tank mounts with hair pins.

Nicely machined head area.  The engine is getting rings and a valve job.  The engine compression was within spec but at the low end of its range but it had very good spring back.  It would be nice to get it peaked so with get some work.  The goal is to get it running well and compare it to a Honda 624.  The Honda 624 is a great machine and so is the YS624 but I think the Yamaha may have a slight edge.

When the piston is covered with my hand and the flywheel turned through a compression stroke the flywheel will bounce back and the spring back can be done once or twice more before it leaks by the rings. 

Liner inserted and painted. 

Lower bucket side distortion due to being thinned and pushed out by rocks.  The machine will clean up nicely but unfortunatly will have the rivets showing and the bulges.  

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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Yamaha YS624W fixup
Reply #31   May 4, 2011 11:46 am
Looks good! Going to keep it for yourself? Seems like there should be plenty of years left in it.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Yamaha YS624W fixup
Reply #32   May 4, 2011 6:40 pm
Bill_H wrote:
Looks good! Going to keep it for yourself? Seems like there should be plenty of years left in it.


    If there's anything in there that will wear out in a few years I missed it.  

    It will probably stick around until we get a few decent storms next year and I get some use on it.   I've got a Honda 624 track I want to test the Yamaha against. 

niper99


Location: London Ont
Joined: Dec 2, 2007
Points: 354

Re: Yamaha YS624W fixup
Reply #33   May 5, 2011 1:26 am
NICE JOB TROUTS!!!! Looking real good.
Underdog


Joined: Oct 18, 2008
Points: 332

Re: Yamaha YS624W fixup
Reply #34   May 5, 2011 7:09 am
The routing of the chute control says it all.  Yamaha made every effort to create a machine that is a joy to use (and worth rebuilding).   Speaking of "using" are you sure there isn't a pile of snow left from this past winter?  Maybe behind a garage wall or near a hedgeline?  With all that snow we had last year there must be something to blow. 

Note: if you removed the bolts that hold the friction pads at the base of the chute be sure to locktite them back in place. Vibration can easily cause them to shake loose and drop off.  I lost one of those when I was working on the blower last year. I keep thinking that parts will turn up now that the snow is gone.

niper99


Location: London Ont
Joined: Dec 2, 2007
Points: 354

Re: Yamaha YS624W fixup
Reply #35   May 5, 2011 11:57 am
u could go to a hockey areana they'll have some snow out back to plow LOL
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