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FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Original Message   Mar 16, 2011 7:19 am
It's in decent condition, new rubber impeller, scraper bar and overall good shape. The guy I bought it from said it had been professionally serviced 2 years ago but had seen little use since then as he decided to hire a plow guy to do his average residential driveway. I could not get it to start after adding some fresh fuel that I brought with me so I offered him $ 40.00 and said OK. - he had it listed for $ 75.00 on CL. I'm pretty sure he left some old, unstabilized fuel in there and it turned into varnish.

I removed the top and back covers and dropped the fuel bowl. It looked like a bad batch of applesauce in there so I cleaned it out and shot the carb with carb cleaner and reinstalled the bowl. It fired up for a few seconds and then died. A good carb cleaning appears to be in order and I'm wondering if I can do this with the carb installed or is it easier/better to remove it from the engine (Suzuki 47P)? I've never removed a carb before but am mechanically inclined and would like to get this operational for next winter.

I remember Borat discussing a cleaning of the jets using wires to remove any build up inside that could cause fuel starvation. I have never done this so any suggestions or tips will be very much appreciated.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #79   Apr 20, 2011 5:49 pm
   Congradulations, you're just about there.  What you've described is very good and what I get when I miss some specs.  The varnish in the photos looked lumpy in spots and a brown coating in others which is tough to fully remove from areas you can't directly poke.  More of the same cleaning should get it. 

   It could be the float is off but more likely just some spec's somewhere.   Drain the bowl and check for specs.  If there are then may be just dumping those will work.  

   What did you set the top screw to?  I think it's 1 or 1 1/2 out from gently closed.  You could try backing that out to 2 and see what happens.  If it needs more than that something is wrong.  Actually 2 would indicate somethings wrong but you'd be very close.

  If no specs or the needle adjust does not work then another round of cleaning.  Make sure you have a good flow from the bowl drain.   Focus on the main jet and emulsion tube.  Be gently in the seat area.

ALSO.... Sometimes it takes a few minutes of warmup for it to run smooth but if you're getting wide throbbing then likely dirt.  It could clear by itself with several minutes of running.

This message was modified Apr 20, 2011 by trouts2
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #80   Apr 20, 2011 6:11 pm
Top screw - is that the one with the spring around the threads? I made some adjustments with that one just now and it did not seem to make a difference. The engine sounds like it's hunting - revs up then down, up then down. I can smooth it out agian by gently and sparingly using the primer bulb. I almost hate to mess with the needle seat again. What do you think?

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #81   Apr 20, 2011 6:27 pm
Sounds like restricted fuel flow into the main jet.  As Trouts says, pull the carb, inspect for dirt, pull the main jet and emulsion tube and clean again.  You'd be wise to put a small in line fuel filter between tank and carb.   You should clean the float needle seat some more and blow through it with compressed air.   Eliminating dirt from the fuel and carb is essential. 
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #82   Apr 20, 2011 6:52 pm
I've replace the fuel filter twice. The main jet and nozzle are clean and good to go. I'll get into the needle seat area and give it the once over again.

Let this be a lesson to those who let their carbs go to hell in a hand basket - keep your carb clean and your fuel fresh!!!

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #83   Apr 20, 2011 7:33 pm
I keep seeing pictures of this float thinking  it's installed upside-Down... Does anyone else see this problem?

Friiy

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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #84   Apr 20, 2011 7:40 pm
friiy wrote:
I keep seeing pictures of this float thinking  it's installed upside-Down... Does anyone else see this problem?

Friiy


Doesn't look like it would fit any other way.  If reversed, it would conflict with the black plastic collar and I doubt that it would be able to move through it's arc. 
friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #85   Apr 20, 2011 7:46 pm
Please try it it for me...  This post is too long too read...   :(

Troll-Friiy

friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #86   Apr 20, 2011 7:57 pm
Maybe I am wrong...IT just doen't look right..

Friiy

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #87   Apr 20, 2011 8:10 pm
For the amount of time we've been trying to get this carb working, I probably could have built him one. 

Speaking of carbs, I'm working on a Lawn Boy 7050 with a plastic carb.   I bought it used and it appears that previous owners had jacked it around a bit.  Carb governor parts were missing and someone had the throttle governor wired wide open.  Mower needs some parts but the engine is very sound and fairly fresh.  Lots of compression and it looks virtually new. 

Should be a good runner once I get if fired up.
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Scored a CCR3000 - Carb needs Cleaning
Reply #88   Apr 20, 2011 8:21 pm
That float can fit no other way than the way it is. I cleaned everything once again and now the fuel to the bowl is restricied again. I'll have to disassemble it and find the sweet spot for the needle - I thought I noticed a spot when I was rotating the needle that seemed to find itself a home. I'm sure there's a sweet spot for everything as this machine was built back in 1997. Too late for tonite so I'll try yet again tomorrow. Thanks as always for your help.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
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