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midfiman


Joined: Feb 9, 2011
Points: 20

Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Original Message   Mar 13, 2011 5:40 pm
Hello all,

So i purchased an almost new (like 4 months old) Ariens Deluxe 30 for only $500 this weekend from someone. It's vitually in perfect shape with almost no signs of wear.   Downside, can't get it to start.  I think it's because the starting key is missing.  Can someone tell me what this key is suppose to look like?  The slot for the key isn't a normal slot I shaped slot.  Instead, it looks like a capital I (or I guess a wide "H" on it's side) shaped slot (see below for crude illustration).  It's currently in the "up/verticle" position.  The engine is a Briggs and Stratton Snow Series 1450.  Can someone help me out and tell what this key is suppose to look like?  Does anyone know of anything like a key with an I shape?  I think that's all it will take to start the engine but not sure.

If no one knows, is there a way to open up the cover and change the position of the switch/key so that I can start the machine anyways?

Thanks in advance for your help.

midfi

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GtWtNorth


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Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #11   Mar 14, 2011 9:12 am
Don't know how these new ones work but in the older Tecunseh models the key inserted kept a set of contacts open so the engine would run. When you pulled the key the contacts closed and shorted the coil to the block preventing spark from reaching the plug. I've replaced some with switches on my Tecumsehs. Not sure where the connections are on the BS engines.

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midfiman


Joined: Feb 9, 2011
Points: 20

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #12   Mar 14, 2011 9:14 am
So, i'll be picking up the key today.  Looks like the local dealer near me has it!

I'm very excited hoping that this is all that's needed to get this blower up and running!  That being said, I'm assuming that the following method should be used to start it:

1.  Check to make sure gas/oil is good to go

2.  Turn the infamous key to the starting position (to it's side)

3.  Push the primer 3-4 times

4.  Set the choke to the choke position

5.  Set the engine speed level to slow (or fast, not sure about this one...?)

6.  Pull the cord or press the electric start button

Then what?  If the engine speed bar is on low, do I slowly move it over to fast, or should I first move the choke lever over to run first and then do that?

Then I'm assuming to turn it off I just slide the engine speed lever over to STOP, yes?

And the only difference on a warm engine is that there's no need to choke, yes? 

Thanks again guys.

midfi

BriMtl


Joined: Mar 14, 2011
Points: 3

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #13   Mar 14, 2011 10:35 am
You can get the manual online from Ariens.
NotMoneyGuy


Location: Toronto & north of
Joined: Nov 10, 2010
Points: 87

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #14   Mar 14, 2011 10:42 am
BriMtl wrote:
You can get the manual online from Ariens.

http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04135800_ENG.pdf

Ariens Deluxe 28  921022  WI, USA      --      Poulan PRO PR621ES 208 cm3 961880002-00

midfiman


Joined: Feb 9, 2011
Points: 20

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #15   Mar 14, 2011 10:51 am
Thank you, appreciate the help.
amazer98


Joined: Dec 7, 2009
Points: 46

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #16   Mar 14, 2011 4:53 pm
I have an Ariens Platinum 24 from last year and I start it with the throttle full on.  When the engine catches, I back off a tiny bit on the throttle..  About the same time I have to turn my choke down a click.  Even on the cold days, full choke seems to be too rich for the engine. I let it run only 30 seconds or so before I go back to full throttle and zero choke.

Even after the engine is fully warm, I can't back off the throttle too much or the engine turns off.  I'd say, if the throttle slides a total of 3 inches (and full power is full right on the throttle), if you back it up an inch or so the engine turns off.

BTW, you are supposed to run these engines at full throttle whenever you're blowing snow or even having it motor along without the augers spinning.
midfiman


Joined: Feb 9, 2011
Points: 20

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #17   Mar 14, 2011 7:38 pm
amazer98 wrote:
I have an Ariens Platinum 24 from last year and I start it with the throttle full on.  When the engine catches, I back off a tiny bit on the throttle..  About the same time I have to turn my choke down a click.  Even on the cold days, full choke seems to be too rich for the engine. I let it run only 30 seconds or so before I go back to full throttle and zero choke.

Even after the engine is fully warm, I can't back off the throttle too much or the engine turns off.  I'd say, if the throttle slides a total of 3 inches (and full power is full right on the throttle), if you back it up an inch or so the engine turns off.

BTW, you are supposed to run these engines at full throttle whenever you're blowing snow or even having it motor along without the augers spinning.



Thanks for the heads up.  Yeah, I got home, inserted the key and it fired right up just like new!  I ran it on full throttle while blowing snow and it was great.  All I have left is slush and it was throwing it at least 25'.  I can only imagine what it will do with powder!

I turned down the throttle while it was just sitting for a few and it purred like a loud kitten!

Wow, $500 (plus $2 for the key) for a 4 month old Ariens Deluxe 30.  I'd say I got a steal of a deal!!!

BriMtl


Joined: Mar 14, 2011
Points: 3

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #18   Mar 14, 2011 8:12 pm
midfiman wrote:

Wow, $500 (plus $2 for the key) for a 4 month old Ariens Deluxe 30.  I'd say I got a steal of a deal!!!


Oh yeah, that's right!  I forgot to say YOU SUCK!!  Heckuva gloat!
amazer98


Joined: Dec 7, 2009
Points: 46

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #19   Mar 14, 2011 8:17 pm
...just wait til you find out it was stolen!
This message was modified Mar 14, 2011 by amazer98
midfiman


Joined: Feb 9, 2011
Points: 20

Re: Need help with Ariens Deluxe 30 please!!!
Reply #20   Mar 14, 2011 9:18 pm
amazer98 wrote:
...just wait til you find out it was stolen!


Eh doesn't matter to me!  I have a bill of sale from the person I bought it from.  I'm innocent I tells ya!  I doubt it's stolen.  It has some little nicks here and there and very very very minor rust spots that show it was definately used.  i believe the people who sold it to me.
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