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Martywdx


Joined: Feb 16, 2011
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Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Original Message   Feb 17, 2011 6:25 pm
 Blew up my snow blower engine, White Outdoor 31AH6GLF790. Piston arm broke and cracked the block. Been looking online and in the local area for two weeks. The engine, new or used seems to be nonexistent. Since Tecumseh Power is out of business I feel I'm out of luck.

I was wondering if changing the engine to a Briggs is something a novice mechanic could tackle. From what I've read bolt downs are standard. But crankshaft sizes very widely. And with that comes drive and arguer pulleys not matching or lining up. I've thought about taking it to shop but I'm sure by the time an engine could be refitted the cost would be more then a new machine.The blower its self is in great shape. Just seems like a waste to junk it.

Anyway, anybody have some thoughts?  

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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #2   Feb 17, 2011 8:01 pm
   That model has two belts that run off the crankshaft only. 

    A repower for that model will be fussy.

   It has a chute support bracket that will limit engine options.  It mounts to the bolt holes on the front of the engine that are around the crankshaft.  All engines that would be replacements for the LH358SA will have those but they must match the location of an LH358SA holes when bolted to the base of the snowblower.  They would have to match in three directions to have the support match to the back of the chute head. 

   It would be difficult to measure your engine to get the locations of the bolt holes for comparison to other engines.  You'll probably never find prints of other engines with all the measurements you need and not find engines around where you can take physical measurements.  You'll probably have to go with getting a similiar HP LH358SA from NOS or second hand. 

   A possible complication is the engine number is not recognized by a few places but does show on others.  That sometimes means it was a special order for MTD.  I think the crankshaft will be 1 inch stepped to 7/8ths but you can check that yourself.  The crank end is also drilled and threaded.

   Given the chute support mounting and the possibly stepped crank that's drilled you might want to consider calling a small engine place like Jacks and see if they can help you locate a Tecumseh NOS engine.  I have had instances of Jacks online listings saying none available but calling found they did.  A lot depends on the person you get on the phone also.  One time I called and the support person said no replacement possible and later called and found they did as the person dug a bit more.   Just to be clear, you'll probably never find an exact NOS match for your engine number but can find a NOS similar engine.

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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
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Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #3   Feb 17, 2011 9:16 pm
   There are other engines that may be possibilities besides the 8.5hp.  Some 9.5 through 11hps are a match.   You can find them by googling the number of your chute support bracket.   There are a number of other White, Troy-Bilt, Yardman, MTD and other MTD brands that use that bracket with 8.5 and other power engines.  An engine similar to any of those would work. 
durckelg


Joined: Dec 1, 2008
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Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #4   Feb 18, 2011 11:14 am
I have an almost brand new 8.5hp Tecumseh that came of an MTD with a broken auger gear box. I believe the crankshaft is as trouts2 described. I will check it out when I get home. What state are you located in?
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edgenet


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Location: Toronto
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Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #5   Feb 18, 2011 7:29 pm
If you live in the Toronto area I have 3-engines single and dual shaft. Plug and play. email edgenet@hotmail.com

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relics


Joined: Jan 16, 2011
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Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #6   Feb 18, 2011 9:34 pm
Look on ebay you may find one.What did you do run it low on oil.Or had you run it low on oil in the past? Here is one that may fit on there.Its 8HP but i would bet there is now power differance between 8hp and up to 9hp tecumseh snow kings. But i guess your shaft on the crank may be different from what has been posted here.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TECUMSEH-SNOW-KING-8HP-SNOWBLOWER-ENGINE-/230586590491?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b008251b

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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #7   Feb 19, 2011 10:02 am
Martywdx,

    Check your engine plate again.  Your engine is probably an LH318SA.

Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #8   Feb 19, 2011 12:29 pm
It doesn't look like he is coming back, but there is always the possibility of switching out the front cover and camshaft if he gets 2 similar engines.
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #9   Feb 19, 2011 3:55 pm
Shryp,

   No need to swap cams.  His is not a dual shaft engine.  His only uses the crankshaft for drive pulleys. 

Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #10   Feb 19, 2011 5:33 pm
trouts2 wrote:
Shryp,

   No need to swap cams.  His is not a dual shaft engine.  His only uses the crankshaft for drive pulleys. 


Oh yea.  Forgot what we were talking about already :)
Martywdx


Joined: Feb 16, 2011
Points: 3

Re: Looking for 8.5 Tecumseh snow king engine LH358SA 156568H
Reply #11   Feb 22, 2011 3:58 pm
Thanks for the input guys. The bottom line was I really was looking for the same engine to swap out with. durckelg had one. but the drive was to far to pick it up.  Changing pullies and shaft sizing was more then my experties. Anyway I bought a new one over the weekend. A Murrey 28 inch, 250cc B/S engine. Maybe some day a 8.5 tech engine will become availble. localy.
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