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borat
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Re: Best Snow thrower or Electric shovel for doing a Roof
Reply #36 Feb 3, 2011 11:52 am |
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"if she does fall there is enough snow on the ground to catch her? :)" At 83 lbs., she'll fall like a leaf. Steve: Can you get up into the attic to take a look at your truss's and rafters to see if they're deflecting excessively? A slight bit of deflections is normal. Particularly under such a load. However, serious deflection will indicate the need to get the snow off. If you see very obvious bowing of the the roof supports, you'd probably do something about it a.s.a.p. If there's little bowing, chances are the roof is good for what it's bearing and probably considerably more. If you're into mathematics and can estimate your roof configuration, the following might be of some assistance to you: http://www.jabacus.com/engineering/load/snowload.php By the way, if you must go up on the roof, as mentioned by another participant, tying a long piece of 1/2 climbing rope or similar to a tree on the opposite side of the house will allow you to work one slope. You could tie off on both sides simultaneously using the same method. Once you're up there, the snow will likely keep you in place until it's been cleared. I'd start at the bottom and work toward the peak so that you don't have to move the snow twice.
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Steve_Cebu
Joined: Dec 17, 2009
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Re: Best Snow thrower or Electric shovel for doing a Roof
Reply #37 Feb 3, 2011 12:18 pm |
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"if she does fall there is enough snow on the ground to catch her? :)"
At 83 lbs., she'll fall like a leaf.
Steve:
Can you get up into the attic to take a look at your truss's and rafters to see if they're deflecting excessively? A slight bit of deflections is normal. Particularly under such a load. However, serious deflection will indicate the need to get the snow off. If you see very obvious bowing of the the roof supports, you'd probably do something about it a.s.a.p. If there's little bowing, chances are the roof is good for what it's bearing and probably considerably more.
If you're into mathematics and can estimate your roof configuration, the following might be of some assistance to you:
http://www.jabacus.com/engineering/load/snowload.php
By the way, if you must go up on the roof, as mentioned by another participant, tying a long piece of 1/2 climbing rope or similar to a tree on the opposite side of the house will allow you to work one slope. You could tie off on both sides simultaneously using the same method. Once you're up there, the snow will likely keep you in place until it's been cleared. I'd start at the bottom and work toward the peak so that you don't have to move the snow twice.
We don't have an attic and as Shryp mentioned a piece of pipe is unlikely to hold my 200 lbs on the roof should I go over the edge. The trees are too far for a rope to be of any use and I'd have to get a rope up mighty high for it to be useful. trees to the front and back where I am most likely going to fall off are about 60 feet away at the closest. The sides are a bit closer but the roof is pretty huge. It doesn't show in the pics but I've been up there in the summer and it's vast and empty up there. I've asked my neighbor who runs a farm about it and he thinks a pro is the only way to go. Too risky he says and he's been up on this roof a few times. He feels the chimney would be too close to the edge to be useful. He said if I fell from up there it would be bad, very bad. I might have to pony up the $500 they want to clear the entire roof. I used to clean the metal roof for my fathers company before he retired back when I was 14 and I slid off it with no hope of stopping it had less pitch than this roof but this one is higher with a layer of ice so just as slippery. This roof is vast and empty with nothing to tie onto just like that one. Fortunately I landed in a deep snowbank which literally buried me big chunk of ice in that snowbank really hurt when I smacked into it. Ah to be young and stupid again.
"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England." "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
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Shryp
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Re: Best Snow thrower or Electric shovel for doing a Roof
Reply #40 Feb 3, 2011 1:25 pm |
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Just found this video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e1_1296706889 and http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2fdad73e43
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Steve_Cebu
Joined: Dec 17, 2009
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Re: Best Snow thrower or Electric shovel for doing a Roof
Reply #45 Feb 4, 2011 9:33 am |
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LOL - just remembered the scene from Grumpy Old Men where they shoot water from a garden hose onto the snowy roof over an entryway, so that it forms a sheet of ice under the snow thus causing an avalanche for the unwitting homeowner who steps out the door (with slamming of said door causing the avalanche). If you could shoot some water up along the peak of the roof, maybe you could create a similar avalanche situation... p.s. - saw the Avalanche AVA300 roof snow removal system (sounds like it is easier/better than a roof rake), maybe you could stand on a tall stepladder strapped in the back of your pickup and reach some of the roof with that system...
I don't have a pickup truck. Still I think that shooting water onto a roof that has 3 feet of snow would take some time and with temps at nigt going to -7F it's going to freeze pretty quickly. Last year during the snow melt, very warm very quickly, it overloaded the septic tank because all the runoff from the driveway goes into it.
I'll try and snap some pics to show how bad it is up there. If it was just a foot that would be ok. For the lower roof and garage I can easily walk on those, the upper roof not a chance, you need a tall ladder and you'd have crap stability on the snow in the driveway.
"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England." "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
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