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borat


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Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Original Message   Jan 15, 2011 9:54 am
I see an MTD single stage, 5 h.p. 21" width, with a two cycle Tecumseh engine in it for sale locally for $200.00.  Looks to be in good shape. 

Does anyone have any experience with this model and if it's a good/reliable performer and buy or not?  
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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #7   Jan 15, 2011 8:37 pm
 I'm confused over what you wrote.

If it was advertised as a 6 year old they paid $1200 for and asking $475 the poster is a hose head and someone I would stay away from .  I don't follow up any wacko posts. 

I think the new info section refers to the above in that you learned it was a 38181 which I assume is the same price, $475.  If that's right then the money is silly.

Comments on price related to eastern Mass.

Around here 2000's go for $20-$300 asking and I'm not sure how many actually sell at the higher price.  The 39xxxxx serial is 1993 and a lot of years.  It would have to be in excellent shape for the high price.  I would not pay that though.  The most I ever payed for one was $100 and it was in excellent external condition but would not start.  Every once in a while I take a chance.  That's what you want is dead meat.  You can get one running in an hour so dead is price goes down.   Won't start is almost always crapped carb.  Worse case you do a ring job.  Over the last few years I've had I think 4 2000's the rest well under $100.  All turned out to have good motors.  Your always taking a chance on single stages with compression so I would not pay much.  I'd rather pay low bucks and put the money into parts and end up with something strong than pay high and take a chance possibly endind up with the same repair as a $20 machine.  If one has had the paddles changed I don't buy it.  If worn paddles I don't buy it. 

You're going to mess with any SS you get so get a low price dead whatever that won't start.

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #8   Jan 15, 2011 8:56 pm
trouts2 wrote:
 I'm confused over what you wrote.

If it was advertised as a 6 year old they paid $1200 for and asking $475 the poster is a hose head and someone I would stay away from .  I don't follow up any wacko posts. 

I think the new info section refers to the above in that you learned it was a 38181 which I assume is the same price, $475.  If that's right then the money is silly.

Comments on price related to eastern Mass.

Around here 2000's go for $20-$300 asking and I'm not sure how many actually sell at the higher price.  The 39xxxxx serial is 1993 and a lot of years.  It would have to be in excellent shape for the high price.  I would not pay that though.  The most I ever payed for one was $100 and it was in excellent external condition but would not start.  Every once in a while I take a chance.  That's what you want is dead meat.  You can get one running in an hour so dead is price goes down.   Won't start is almost always crapped carb.  Worse case you do a ring job.  Over the last few years I've had I think 4 2000's the rest well under $100.  All turned out to have good motors.  Your always taking a chance on single stages with compression so I would not pay much.  I'd rather pay low bucks and put the money into parts and end up with something strong than pay high and take a chance possibly endind up with the same repair as a $20 machine.  If one has had the paddles changed I don't buy it.  If worn paddles I don't buy it. 

You're going to mess with any SS you get so get a low price dead whatever that won't start.


Trouts:

I'll give you a bit more info that I've received.

The woman selling the machine said that her parents bought it for her as a house warming gift six years ago from the local Toro/Ariens super-gouger.  She says they paid $1200.00 for it, thus her expected high re-sale price.  I e-mailed her back advising her that her parents had been shafted and just because they were hosed, doesn't make the machine any more valuable.  I offered her $200.00 if it's in good condition.  She countered with $300.00.   These things are very scarce around here.  Maybe one or two a season show up in local classifieds, so, if it's in excellent shape, I might spring for  a couple hundred.  It's still $476.00 less than a new one at HD. 

We'll have to see how it goes.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #9   Jan 15, 2011 9:01 pm
Borat,

Does that come with a controverial friction disk drive?

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #10   Jan 15, 2011 9:09 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
Borat,

Does that come with a controverial friction disk drive?


Ahhhhhh, no.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #11   Jan 15, 2011 9:12 pm
Why do you want to buy a single stage snowblower?  What void would that fill?
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #12   Jan 15, 2011 9:34 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
Why do you want to buy a single stage snowblower?  What void would that fill?


Because I don't have one.   I like toys/tools and in particular, two cycles.  
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #13   Jan 15, 2011 10:09 pm
MN_Runner, excellent point, the friction disk model (CCR200E-FD) is very rare and probably accounts for the $1200.  If FD equipped I'd snag it in a heartbeat.  You can show it at the Fiction Disk Convention 2011 nest spring in New Jersy.

>>>The woman selling the machine said that her parents bought it for her as a house warming gift six years ago

How can that be?  There is no such thing as a 6 year old CCR2000E.  ??  Is the thing a 38181?

>>from the local Toro/Ariens super-gouger.  She says they paid $1200.00 for it, thus her expected high re-sale price. 

I get fed crapola every week.  Deelers don't go crazy gouging they have to say within limits or loose their dealership.  $1200 is fantacy land made up by the lady.

>>These things are very scarce around here.  Maybe one or two a season show up in local classifieds, so, if it's in excellent shape, I might spring for  a couple hundred.  It's still $476.00 less than a new one at

   OK, your in a different ballgame than here for sure.  There's several a week here and that does not include what get up and sold in one day so the listing disappears in hours or a day. 

>>I offered her $200.00 if it's in good condition.  She countered with $300.00.

(I just realized I have no idea what the Lunney is worth in US).   My stuff has been in US dollars.

At $250-$300 sight unseen what would you really want to pay factoring in bad rings, scraper worn, augers worn?  Would that total be when all replaced?  Close or away enough to a new one and worth the risk?   You can get a Toro 2450 or other better models for $300 around here.    Come to Boston for a week, by a bunch of machines cheap and take them back to Canada.

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #14   Jan 15, 2011 10:19 pm
Loonie and U.S. buck are at par. 

Can't see myself spending a grand or more to go to Mass. to pick up used Toro single stage snow blowers to bootleg in Canada.   Not good business...  Know what I mean? 

The woman changed the age of the machine to 4 years old.  Does that sound right?   Don't doubt the $1200.00.   The Toro/Ariens dealer in this town is outrageous.   I've heard numerous horror stories about that particular dealership and experienced parts price gouging first hand.  I'd suspect the price is also including our famous 13% in taxes.   

Either way, if she's receptive to my offer, maybe I'll pick it up. 
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #15   Jan 15, 2011 10:39 pm
Borat,

Ask the woman what she does with the leftover wine after the guests are gone?  If she says the wine is discarded then do not buy the snowblower as she is a liar.  But if she says she is saving it for a next party then she is telling the truth.  But do not buy that snowblower as she did not pay $1200 regardless whether it has super FD or not. 

MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Yard Machine (MTD) Single Stage Questions
Reply #16   Jan 15, 2011 10:39 pm
Borat,

Does she look like a honest seller?

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