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Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
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Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Original Message   Jan 7, 2011 3:46 pm
I was getting tired of all the conflicting info on the Honda 928TAS so I called up Honda directly

American Honda Power Equipment Division

Customer Relations
Tel: 770-497-6400
Fax: 678-339-2519
Mon. - Fri. 8:30 - 7:00 EST

I spoke with Denise at the above number. She told me that side skid shoes were for commercial use and that some 928TAS models were designated as such and that you could tell this by looking at the side of the bucket and seeing if there were indents where the side skid shoes would go. If there are then you can add standard skid shoes if no indents then you have to use commercial ones, either way you have to drill holes in the side of the bucket to add them. The side skid shoes according to her and she double checked are for commercial use and are an option you pay extra for. They make the 928TAS easier to turn and protect any bedding or concrete and they prevent the auger from scraping the ground.

I explained that my dealer had told me differently and she explained that perhaps the dealer has heard from a customer that the snowblower was easier to turn without them but Honda maintains that it's easier to turn with side skid shoes and that it does not in any way affect the operation on the snowblower even in it's fully lowered position except that the auger will not scrape the ground.

Since I had her on the phone I asked when the first oil change should be and she said at 20 hours not before or after. She said all this is available in the owners manual. She did mention that you should check your oil level each time before using the machine.

So that's the offical story from Honda America easily verified by calling up Honda and speaking with Denise or someone else in customer service.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
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Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #13   Jan 7, 2011 11:51 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
I would personally fill the track with Argon gas since it is one of the noble gases and you will have a royal snowblower.


I honestly would like to see how anyone would inflate a rubber track, it's not hollow like the wheels!

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #14   Jan 7, 2011 11:55 pm
Steve_Cebu wrote:
I honestly would like to see how anyone would inflate a rubber track, it's not hollow like the wheels!

Did you forget to ask Denise at Honda customer relations how to inflate the tracks. 
This message was modified Jan 8, 2011 by aa335
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #15   Jan 7, 2011 11:57 pm
Steve,

I am begining to think that you missed your Honda snowblower. I was hoping we talk more about Yamaha or something else other than Honda but that red beast seems to dominate.

Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #16   Jan 8, 2011 12:26 am
MN_Runner wrote:
Steve,

I am begining to think that you missed your Honda snowblower. I was hoping we talk more about Yamaha or something else other than Honda but that red beast seems to dominate.



Well I would love to talk about it but they don't sell them in the US although if they did I certainly could find that out. I am a senior purchasing agent. I spend money all day.

But the corporation I work for has professional snow removal.

I have found in the 25 years of buying things that you really can buy almost anything, that's part of the fun of the job.

I'm sure Yamaha could be purchased through commercial ventures, very little is impossible. That said it's more than I want to spend for a private snowblower.

They don't sell Yamaha in MN do they? I'd be willing to bet they don't sell in the USA for very good reasons. I can think of a few off the top of my head. I should get the numbers for Honda snowblower sales for 2010 if available. That would probably tell the story of Yamaha. I think if Yamaha came back to the US they'd do ok, but in a bad economy it's not the best time to try and reclaim the high end snowblower market.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #17   Jan 8, 2011 7:33 am
No Yamaha in MN. I can drive to Canada but it is not practical and the price is a bit too much.  For that much money  (and Honda too), I can do something really nice for our upcoming 20th anniversary.  I was pretty much set on buying a Honda snowblower and nothing else just like my lawnmower purchase.  Due to more than normal snow fall, all the Honda blowers were sold out in the Twin Cities. My original intent was buying a HS724 but I felt (a personal feeling and not necessary a fact) it was a bit underpowered so I upgraded to HS928.  724 was a good and super quiet machine so as long as you go at a reasonable speed it was fine. I talked about Honda may not be best, but not sure if I would buy any other brand.  It is just a personal preference.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #18   Jan 8, 2011 11:20 am
MN_Runner wrote:
No Yamaha in MN. I can drive to Canada but it is not practical and the price is a bit too much.  For that much money  (and Honda too), I can do something really nice for our upcoming 20th anniversary.  I was pretty much set on buying a Honda snowblower and nothing else just like my lawnmower purchase.  Due to more than normal snow fall, all the Honda blowers were sold out in the Twin Cities. My original intent was buying a HS724 but I felt (a personal feeling and not necessary a fact) it was a bit underpowered so I upgraded to HS928.  724 was a good and super quiet machine so as long as you go at a reasonable speed it was fine. I talked about Honda may not be best, but not sure if I would buy any other brand.  It is just a personal preference.


I think Honda makes a great machine. I just think they charge too much for it. They are positioning themselves as a Premium snowblower company for the well off and discriminating buyer. The BMW/Mercedes/Cadillac or snowblowers. I had one and I think my Toro 1028 is every bit as good as the Honda at half the cost. Yamaha looks great but it is even more expensive. I think if I lived in Canada where they get a LOT of snow I'd probably buy the Yamaha and be done with it.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
New_Yorker


Preach the Gospel always, use words when necessary

Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #19   Jan 8, 2011 11:33 am
Steve_Cebu wrote:
I was getting tired of all the conflicting info on the Honda 928TAS so I called up Honda directly

American Honda Power Equipment Division

Customer Relations
Tel: 770-497-6400
Fax: 678-339-2519
Mon. - Fri. 8:30 - 7:00 EST

I spoke with Denise at the above number. She told me that side skid shoes were for commercial use and that some 928TAS models were designated as such and that you could tell this by looking at the side of the bucket and seeing if there were indents where the side skid shoes would go. If there are then you can add standard skid shoes if no indents then you have to use commercial ones, either way you have to drill holes in the side of the bucket to add them. The side skid shoes according to her and she double checked are for commercial use and are an option you pay extra for. They make the 928TAS easier to turn and protect any bedding or concrete and they prevent the auger from scraping the ground.

I explained that my dealer had told me differently and she explained that perhaps the dealer has heard from a customer that the snowblower was easier to turn without them but Honda maintains that it's easier to turn with side skid shoes and that it does not in any way affect the operation on the snowblower even in it's fully lowered position except that the auger will not scrape the ground.

Since I had her on the phone I asked when the first oil change should be and she said at 20 hours not before or after. She said all this is available in the owners manual. She did mention that you should check your oil level each time before using the machine.

So that's the offical story from Honda America easily verified by calling up Honda and speaking with Denise or someone else in customer service.


You should have inquired why the machine does not say the engine oil must remain in the engine unchanged for 20 hours, if that is in fact the dubious action that Honda demands.  I suspect you were talking to a tech rep reading some computer screen.  telling a consumer the oil should not be changed before 20 hours goes against everything in maintaining a engine.  People often debate extended oil changes but only here are there people clueless enough to suggest that changing the oil 3 times in 20 hours is worse that changing it once. And lest anyone forget we are taliking about engines that have No Oil Filters to collect the wear particles that I can attest make the oil at 2 hours grey in color.  You might as well add sand to the machinery.   At least the owners manual does not agree with her, like evreyone else who knows anything.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #20   Jan 8, 2011 11:42 am
New_Yorker wrote:
You should have inquired why the machine does not say the engine oil must remain in the engine unchanged for 20 hours, if that is in fact the dubious action that Honda demands.  I suspect you were talking to a tech rep reading some computer screen.  telling a consumer the oil should not be changed before 20 hours goes against everything in maintaining a engine.  People often debate extended oil changes but only here are there people clueless enough to suggest that changing the oil 3 times in 20 hours is worse that changing it once. And lest anyone forget we are taliking about engines that have No Oil Filters to collect the wear particles that I can attest make the oil at 2 hours grey in color.  You might as well add sand to the machinery.   At least the owners manual does not agree with her, like evreyone else who knows anything.


First off no one said Honda demaded anything, so that is you twisting the words. I posted exactly what they said, nothing more or less. I also posted a name and phone number and hours to call them so why don't you call them yourself and get the info directly from them and argue with Honda. Besides it doesn't matter what anyone including Honda says you New_Yorker have your mind made up. Honda gave me teh facts and I posted the information on how to contact tthem so anyone can verify the info with a a simple phone call. If you want to argue with Honda go right ahead. You don't own one anyway, so why do you care? I did own a 928TAS.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
njal


Joined: Jan 9, 2010
Points: 109

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #21   Jan 8, 2011 12:03 pm
Steve got snow??

We got a wopping 2inc here yesterday.

We might get some more tue. going into wed. of this up coming week.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Honda Side Skid Shoes & First Oil Change Interval (info direct from Honda not a dealer)
Reply #22   Jan 8, 2011 12:10 pm
njal wrote:
Steve got snow??

We got a wopping 2inc here yesterday.

We might get some more tue. going into wed. of this up coming week.


It is snowing pretty heavy right now but they said little to no accumulation and just snow showers. Well looks like we might get mor..... Damn I just looked out the window and it's slowed down.

Curse you Weather channel!

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
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