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rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Original Message   Dec 30, 2010 12:21 am
I moved to a new house, top of a hill, with farm land across from my driveway.

This is our second winter, and my MTD is not up to the task of clearing the packed snow that blows into my yard, sometimes daily.

I have been looking for a couple weeks, and had made up my mind to get the Honda. I had been to the Yamaha dealer previously, but they were not willing to deal.

Well today a new twist, I went back to Yamaha, and was offered the YS928J for the same price as the HS928TC.

Specs are very similar, with some different features. The Honda has full Joystick control on the chute, and is 100 lbs lighter.

The Yamaha has plastic coated chute, manual up/down. Has no shear pins, which may be a bonus, if the 'Shock Protection' works correctly. Also the Yamaha is quiter.

I have been reviewing this site, however, there is limited information on the Yamahas, likely because they just came back to Canada in 2009 (15 year Hiatus) and I am not sure if they are available in the U.S.

Has anyone out there used these models? Can you offer an Opinion?

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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #7   Dec 30, 2010 11:44 am
" Honda doesn't even give you a light, until you buy an 1132."

If that gas leak sparks up, you'll have plenty of light.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #8   Dec 30, 2010 11:50 am
borat wrote:
" Honda doesn't even give you a light, until you buy an 1132."

If that gas leak sparks up, you'll have plenty of light.

I can see that the opportunists will have some fun with this for a while. 

I guess I wont need the electric start or even pulling my engine to start.  Just park it outside, throw down a match, and let the snow melt.  :)

Oh wait, my 1132 isnt affected by the recall. 
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #9   Dec 30, 2010 11:53 am
Easy now aa335....

Just making "light" of the situation. 

Don't forget that B&S had a major engine recall back around '06-'07 for a fire hazard with their engines.   The dealer had to fix the engine on my Simplicity prior to me picking it up.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #10   Dec 30, 2010 11:59 am
borat wrote:
Easy now aa335....

Just making "light" of the situation. 

Don't forget that B&S had a major engine recall back around '06-'07 for a fire hazard with their engines.   The dealer had to fix the engine on my Simplicity prior to me picking it up.

Hey, I know what you mean.  No offense taken here.  I'm sure I won't be quiet if my machine will be out of commission for 3 weeks because of a recall.

It's just there are those who resort to "kick them while they're down" attitude. 
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #11   Dec 30, 2010 12:35 pm
When I bought my HS928, I did not get much but got a full tank of gas and 1 QT of no-brand 5W-30 motor oil, which I replaced after 3-5 hours of use.  Maybe, Canada is better.
rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #12   Dec 30, 2010 12:58 pm
Yes the Yamaha weight is both a pro and a con. The dealer will have one in next week to take for a test drive.

I have 2 thoughts on this,      1) the extra weight will make it more difficult to manouver

                                                    2)the extra weight might help it stay down and eat through the hard packed drifts that my current MTD likes to rides up, or stop and spin wheels.

My driveways is 25 feets by 75 feet, last 50 feet is gravel. I am tired of pushing my snowblower through the hard packed snow, this is why I am looking for tracks. Most of my neighbors have wheel drive blowers, various modles, and face the same issues out here. When you wake up in the morning with 3 feet or more of hard packed snow, you need a bobcat, or something that can really push and eat its way through.

My wife likes the Hydrostatic transmission, which has brought us to these models.

As for the Honda, it does come with a light, and nicely featured. I have heard complaints though, about shear pins breaking to easy.

The Yamaha does not use shear pins, does anyone know about this 'Shock Protection' technology???

The dealer at Honda claims he has an 80 year old lady who can use the Honda, all about turning under power, etc???

My wife was able to manouver the Honda, she is 125 lbs, but she can not try the Yamaha till next week.

MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #13   Dec 30, 2010 1:10 pm
I weigh 125LB on a good day and have no issue with HS928WAS (wheel version).  I think the track is better on traction but I stayed away from track as it looked a bit complicated.  I am not sure how hydrostatic works (sounds like using fluid to manage propulsion) but I was not too crazy about it.  My Honda lawnmower is a belt driven and not a hydrostatic version.  The belt is really easy to change.  I really like simple and clean design like the Honda and see how does the hydrostatic works out.  Friction disk does not sound that complicated and looks like it is a reasonable fix.
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rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #14   Dec 30, 2010 1:37 pm
My wife actually commented that the Honda was the same to turn as the MTD, but then she may not have been turning the MTD correctly, :-) I was not home.

I had the MTD for 13 years now, has served me well, in the city. Out here though, it is a task to push, lean, wiggle and fight with it to get through the packed snow.

I could put chains on it, but did not want to chew up the new exposed driveway.

When I buy a new blower, my Dad will inherit the MTD, he wants a used 2 stage for sidewalk and driveway. Also, chains would not solve the riding up problems. Both Honda and Yamaha have the tiltable auger, and can be set to dig down as they push forward, I would need to test this feature, but I have read several post here that confirm this action.

The hydrostatic is basically an oil pump, run by the engine, the oil flow is used to turn a motor attached to the drive. You use a single lever to change the flow, for direction, or amount of flow, for speed.

I have researched hydrostatic drives, and they seem very durable and reliable. I do wonder if the lines would pose an issue for leakage, etc, with age, but could not find any complaints.

What I can not find information on, is what Yamaha is doing in the Gear Case, to allow for the removal of shear pins???

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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #15   Dec 30, 2010 2:21 pm
rubinew wrote:

The dealer at Honda claims he has an 80 year old lady who can use the Honda, all about turning under power, etc???


This is quite hard to swallow.  I don't think I can take a salesman seriously.  The best thing for him to do is to demonstrate how easy it to turn rather than pulling your leg.  Why don't you ask him for her name and talk to her if she can do it.

I rarely see women operate a snowblower, except 2.  I have never seen a woman operate a tracked snowblower.  An 80 year old woman operating a tracked snowblower?  That is not impossible, but not very likely.
rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #16   Dec 30, 2010 2:28 pm
aa335 wrote:
This is quite hard to swallow.  I don't think I can take a salesman seriously.  The best thing for him to do is to demonstrate how easy it to turn rather than pulling your leg.  Why don't you ask him for her name and talk to her if she can do it.

I rarely see women operate a snowblower, except 2.  I have never seen a woman operate a tracked snowblower.  An 80 year old woman operating a tracked snowblower?  That is not impossible, but not very likely.



Yeah, I took that comment with a grain of salt :-)

The Saskatchewan women are tough, but still, hard to beleive, then again, one never knows!

Because I travel, my wife has to snow blow at time,s 3 times this year alone. This is why I am looking to replace. She could not get through the drifts with our old blower.

Had to hire a bobcat to come and clear, but this brings about the waiting, etc, missed work that day, stuck in house.

When I leave, I put the blower were my car goes, then she can start and drive straight out. I just need to make sure she can turn it 180 to go back and forth to clear herself out.

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