Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

O-K, the light kit that is sold as an 'Accessory' for the Honda Snowblowers comes with a standard 12 V sealed beam, like the old car headlights of yesteryear. But it IS Halogen as Honda says, a $10.00 dollar GE Par36 50 Watt bulb that puts out 300 Lumens.  It is in fact manufactured for this and many other applications by a company named (PM) Peterson Manufacturing, (www.pmlights.com)   They list the light in its rubber weather and vibration resistant mount as a Model 507, and if you go to www.foxtaillights.com they sell it for about 30 bucks, without the special HONDA snowblower bracket you need to mount it to the Honda snowblower, for the kit that Honda sells that includes this expect to pay $ 60.00 buckaroos.   Now IF, like me, You want to install a light more modern, capable and bright here's what you do.  You again go to FoxTailLights.com, and buy the PM model 907 light with 10 LED Diodes to light your way and an estimated 100,000 hour durability and an output of 1000 Lumens  . . . that light with the same rubber mount sells for $ 72.00 plus shipping and anything else they can add. 

The light kit, like the Commercial Skid Shoes is supplied with the electroplated zinc, Guaranteed to RUST in record time, bolts, nuts & washers.  If you don't like rust on your new snowblower go to www.allensfasteners.com and replace the HONDA QuickRust hardware with some Stainless Steel.

Incidentally the Peterson Manufacturing (PM) Technical rep said that the OEM accesory light they supply Honda, the 50watt 12V sealed bean requires 2.54 amps, the new LED unit needs just  .51 amps to operate, so the extra power to run the switch is not going to be a problem.  Just make sure the unit gets as good a ground contact as you can or it might  not work. 

PM makes a stick-on reflective in either amber or red they call them "Spitfires", IMHO they are the brightest reflectors I've ever seen should anyone need such a thing.

kderobertis wrote:

I have a feeling that we will not see any pics coming from New_Yorker who most likely is from New Jersey, same as another "former poster, same dogmatic opinions and attitude and all based on Internet info and spec sheets and no practical info in the real world. I'd also like to see some pics of his Honda with an LED light kit on it. I won't hold my breath tho.

So my guess is either he won't reply or will make excuses. Time will tell.

Steve_Cebu wrote:

Greetings Everyone, Here we have one of many antagonistic, when not completely useless posts by Steve_Cebu, no shocker there ! Note his contempt for New Jersey residents, which is supposed to insult me.  As for the internet info, let's examine Steve_Cebus first posting to me to see how He holds up under his own standard.  I think you'll you will discover that Steve is guilty of what phychiatrists call "Projection" in insulting myself and others, He attributes to Others what he himself would do in the same situation. 

When I first came to this forum I asked if anyone had any information about installing an LED light on my Homda Snowblower.  Steve was the 1st to respond.  He evidently did a google search, found nothing, and copied what he did find anyway rather than avoid commenting on that which he had no information or relevance to the question asked.  Here's that valueless post, an oldie but a goodie that proves that Steve_Cebu does what he accuses me of doing, despite any proof.  I highlighted and Underlined the key phrsaes to assist you.

Enjoy !

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o k here goes: http://patmullins.com/ledlightmyths.html#toc2

"LEDs produce more light per watt than an incandescent bulb.  But most of the watts they consume is still converted to heat, and if not dissipated, will drastically shorten their life.  Heat doesn't radiate from an LED, so it must be conducted away, usually into an exchanger to free flowing air.  The LED junction must operate below about 85°C."

And from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode

"Like other lighting devices, LED performance is temperature dependent. Most manufacturers’ published ratings of LEDs are for an operating temperature of 25°C. LEDs used outdoors, such as traffic signals or in-pavement signal lights, and that are utilized in climates where the temperature within the luminaire gets very hot, could result in low signal intensities or even failure.^[36]

LED light output actually rises at colder temperatures (leveling off depending on type at around -30C^{[citation needed]}). Consequently, LED technology may be a good replacement in uses such as supermarket freezer lighting^[37][38][39] and will last longer than other technologies. Because LEDs emit less heat than incandescent bulbs, they are an energy-efficient technology for uses such as freezers. However, because they emit little heat, ice and snow may build up on the LED luminaire in colder climates.^[36] This lack of waste heat generation has been observed to cause sometimes significant problems with street traffic signals and airport runway lighting in snow-prone areas, although some research has been done to try to develop heat sink technologies to transfer heat to other areas of the luminaire.". . .

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Steve has NO ORIGINAL thoughts of his own knowledge, beyond mindless insults.  So he, not I Google the baloney he posts.  Like I said, "PROJECTION" attributing to me, what Steve_Cebu does in the same situation.

No information about a snowblower, its electrical output, the light either from the OEM or the potentially new LED light, just a buncha Google Info or wikipedia that added nothing to the question asked.

So you will all forgive me when I ignore Steve_Cebu's aimless postings in the future, because they lead only to embarassing poor Steve, and they serve no purpose.

Now, who's going to tell me how I began the offensive insult postings ? ? ? Let me point out that this useless post from ol stevie I did NOT expose back when he first posted it, I was NOT interested in belittling anyone.  However the best defense is a good offense, so if this bit of truth and reality offends ol stevie, how's that bad ?

kderobertis wrote:
Sorry for going on a tangential journey but that's nice property.  Love the landscaping. 

Man oh man that is one awesome driveway!

Love the landscaping also..

Steve_Cebu wrote:

yo steve aint notthing wrong with jersey!!!

course we could use more snow! :-)

njal wrote:
Yup.  Nothing wrong with NJ.  Except the gas pump.  Why can't I put gas in my own car?

I could use some snow around here.  :)

aa335 wrote:

I bet you guys pay more fro fuel.

we are at 289/299 for reg..

I always try and pump my own ,I dont trust the knucklehead with the nozle.

I can't handle nicks in my paint!!

We had 2 inc of snow here today,I used a brrom :( what a bummer!!

njal wrote:
Yup.  I'm paying $3.39 per gallon for premium.  Ouch. 

Yeah, I don't get why you can't pump your own gas in NJ.  Those people don't care about your car, why should they touch your car?  Is there a pump handler union in NJ?

New_Yorker wrote:

So you are DavidNJ after all. I still don't see any pics from you with your alleged snowblower or you using it. Just a lot of stuff from an online manual. You have contributed nothing except opinions about a snowblower that you do not even attempt to prove that you own. You are never going to post any pics because you do not have a Honda, you bought an MTD instead. You are only posting tech info gleaned from online info and a supposed manual that you own which is doubtful. So you dream up a starwman arguement in which you do not answer any of what I have posted as you have to avoid the truth at all costs.

As far as LED lights apparantly I did not make myself clear however a poster later on was able to so i saw no point in expounding on the fact that an LED does get hot and that is why it requires a heat sink. The actual light itself does not get hot but if you run it without a heat sink the LED will fail and quickly. You chose to ignore my saying that.

Anyway back to your strawman arguement. Either produce the pics of your Honda 928 with your LED light attachment or get relegated back to being the liar you have been in this forum. You have little to no practical experience and it shows. Posting tech articles on snowblowers that anyone could look up doesn't count David.

njal wrote:

The only thing wrong with Jersey is DavidNJ a former poster from New Jersey now going under the name New_Yorker. He was booted off for being insulting and rude. Jersey State is cool tho.