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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
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Seized Idler Pulley ?
Original Message   Dec 14, 2010 8:38 am
Anyone want to clue me on a tip or two
I recently just regreased the auger on my HS724. Nothing complicated nor special...

I just fired it up for the 1st time since doing that.
It spun the Augers 1 1/2 rotation before it quit out on me.

I've been messing with it since, and it makes this loud creaking noise when I engage the auger and then the engine just quits on me....

It spun fine before I got it. Auger does not appear seized....

Pulled the top cover off. Belts look fine.
Fired her up .Engine is nice and smooth.
Yeap, confirmed it's the pulley.
Has the throttle in fast, engaged auger and she's smoking up as the belt is moving but not the pulley....and there is the source of my creak..
Now, on to the fix. Thoughts, suggestions.

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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #9   Dec 14, 2010 5:57 pm
You guys talking snow blowers or Lamborghinis?

Snow blowers, guys.....  Tools to move snow right?  

I can see keeping the exterior of the machine looking decent but, obsessing over the augers and impeller?   Well????????
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #10   Dec 14, 2010 6:16 pm
Yes, I believe we're talking about machinery that moves snow.  If it was a Lambo, I'd leave it up to the professionals to do the painting.

I can't reply for chefwong, but I'm not looking for automotive finish.  Just something that is durable and looks decent. 
borat


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Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #11   Dec 14, 2010 6:26 pm
aa335 wrote:
Yes, I believe we're talking about machinery that moves snow.  If it was a Lambo, I'd leave it up to the professionals to do the painting.

I can't reply for chefwong, but I'm not looking for automotive finish.  Just something that is durable and looks decent. 

Take the augers and impeller off and get them powder coated.  Can't beat that for durability.  However, in time, that will give way too.  

Trying to keep the business parts of the machine painted and rust free is an exercise in futility.  First pile of EOD snow will begin the paint stripping.  Personally, I haven't noticed a drop in snow throwing performance with a bit of rust on the auger and  impeller assemblies.   
bmwe0692


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Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #12   Dec 14, 2010 10:29 pm
Two things to look at. 1 would be the right hand rake or auger,looks too close to the gear box. Could be the angle of the picture. Another would be the brake arm,when it is back together, watch the arm and see if it clears the pulley and dosen't rub hard on the pulley.

Just my suggestions, Hope you get it going!

T.J.

Put it where the Big iron wheel runs!!!
chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #13   Dec 14, 2010 10:44 pm
I think we're on to something....bearing the noise when the auger drive is engaged, I'm planning to change the impeller bearing and button her back up and see how she goes.

AA - u want to spray thin coats. For me, that is 3 thin coats that by the 3rd coat it's soiid color. In my experience with enamal paints, thin coats with plenty of dry time is key to a hard finish...
I'm thinking maybe the paint you used is hard but too brittle - kinda like putting too much hardener if you are *mixing* your paint.
If that does not do it for you, Rustoleum Professional has more ~solids~ in them. The next level above that is automotive paint, but that get's pricey.
The more solids, the more durable the finish.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #14   Dec 14, 2010 11:47 pm
chefwong wrote:
AA - u want to spray thin coats. For me, that is 3 thin coats that by the 3rd coat it's soiid color. In my experience with enamal paints, thin coats with plenty of dry time is key to a hard finish...
I'm thinking maybe the paint you used is hard but too brittle - kinda like putting too much hardener if you are *mixing* your paint.
If that does not do it for you, Rustoleum Professional has more ~solids~ in them. The next level above that is automotive paint, but that get's pricey.
The more solids, the more durable the finish.


You're probably right, I got impatient and put on the coats too quickly and thick which did not allow it to properly cure. 

Going to strip it down and try again next spring.
chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #15   Dec 15, 2010 5:20 pm
FACEPALM

I bought a new bearing, replaced it, engaged auger drive and it spun.
Proceeded to button things back up. Put a couple bolts on the chassis to bucket, installed the auger and then I realized what I had done wrong.
I probably snugged the main bolt/washer that is on the sides of the bucket that turns out.....the washer sits ontop of the auger bearings and I probably snugged that way TOO tight when I installed the auger previously.

I'm thinking this was the issue, or maybe it was this and a bad impeller bearing, but all is well and she spins fine now.
aa335


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Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #16   Dec 15, 2010 5:29 pm
Good, at least you found out what went wrong.  I wouldn't be happy putting things back without knowing the cause of the problem.
chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #17   Dec 15, 2010 5:31 pm
So now you know WHAT NOT TO DO when you remove your augers to grease them
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Seized Idler Pulley ?
Reply #18   Dec 15, 2010 5:49 pm
Just in time for the snow.  Now put everything back before you break more stuff.  :)
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