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borat


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1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Original Message   Nov 26, 2010 10:57 am
I picked up this old 1983 Toro Power Shovel for dirt cheap.  I found some info on the internet, took it apart to inspect/clean/adjust/lubricate.  Put it all back together and gave it a test run.  These things are incredible!  We've had some serious heavy wet snow here recently.  Not real big dumps.  Maybe 3 to 4 inches at a time.  Certainly deep and wet enough to be difficult to shovel.   I bought this thing for clearing off our fairly large deck.  Couldn't be happier with it's performance.  Why Toro ever stop making these with the gas engine is beyond me.   For it's diminutive size, and little 21cc two stroke engine, this thing can move a lot of snow. 



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borat


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #22   Dec 7, 2010 10:40 am
aa335 wrote:
That is one robustly built power shovel.  Thanks for all those pics, hirshallan.  Does it have a replaceable scraper bar?  What is the function of those springs?

Now I definitely want to get my hands on one.  Makes a great restoration project.

Anyone guess on why Toro stopped making these after a few years?  Is it the cost?


This is where I got most of my info:

I've tried numerous times to insert addresses as a link and it just never works.  Am I the only one having this problem?

The link below has nice diagrams etc. and show availability of parts.  Not too many available but the highest wear item parts can still be had.

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=toro_consumer&mn=38350%2C+Gas+Power+Shovel+Snowthrower%2C+1984+%28SN+4000001-4999999%29

Scraper bar is replaceable as is the rotor.

They only made them for three years.  1983 to 1985.  Could have been something to do with the EPA and two cycle engines.   I've actually been toying with the idea of putting a chainsaw engine on an electric snow shove.   Get some sprockets and bicycle chain, mount the saw engine on the handles, line up the sprockets, put the chain on and see how it goes!
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aa335


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #23   Dec 7, 2010 10:54 am
borat wrote:
This is where I got most of my info:

I've tried numerous times to insert addresses as a link and it just never works.  Am I the only one having this problem?

The link below has nice diagrams etc. and show availability of parts.  Not too many available but the highest wear item parts can still be had.

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=toro_consumer&mn=38350%2C+Gas+Power+Shovel+Snowthrower%2C+1984+%28SN+4000001-4999999%29

Scraper bar is replaceable as is the rotor.

They only made them for three years.  1983 to 1985.  Could have been something to do with the EPA and two cycle engines.   I've actually been toying with the idea of putting a chainsaw engine on an electric snow shove.   Get some sprockets and bicycle chain, mount the saw engine on the handles, line up the sprockets, put the chain on and see how it goes!

I was having the same problems using Firefox on the mac.  Simply edit the link and paste it in the field second time, before you submit the post.  It should work that way.

Looks like there's only a handful of replacement parts available from that website.  I guess support for this product is very minimal at best.

I do like the current model electric Toro Power Shovel with the newer curved rotor.  I had thought about putting a 2 cycle string trimmer engine to it.  Is a chainsaw engine more compact and lighter?
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borat


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #24   Dec 7, 2010 11:24 am
Not sure what you mean by "edit the link"?    Would you please elaborate a bit on that?   I'm also using Firefox on a Mac. 

I doubt that a chainsaw engine would be as compact or lighter.   They're just a lot more readily available around here.  I see numerous chainsaws selling very cheaply and virtually no operational trimmers or any other two cycle engine source equipment.  The electric power shovels have double down tubes for the handle.  One could put a cross piece in between to mount an engine on.   It would be nice however if the the rotational direction of the power source was compatible with the rotation of the rotor on the power shovel.   Otherwise.......
aa335


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #25   Dec 7, 2010 11:54 am
borat wrote:
Not sure what you mean by "edit the link"?    Would you please elaborate a bit on that?   I'm also using Firefox on a Mac. 

Select the text you want to link the http path to.  At the toolbar, select the Insert/Edit Link button.  A dialog box will appear, paste your link into the URL form, then press the OK button.

Right mouse click on the underlined link that was created and select Edit Link.  You will see the same dialog box again, but this time, the URL box will have some jibberish such as "javascript *(*&* "  .   Recopy the link into that box again and hit OK. 
hirschallan


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #26   Dec 7, 2010 1:44 pm
aa335 wrote:
  What is the function of those springs?

Now I definitely want to get my hands on one.  .

Anyone guess on why Toro stopped making these after a few years?  Is it the cost?


The springs are there for keeping the tension on the wheel kit when you collapse them as you could see in the pics. There is a hook up in there behind the bracket to hold the wheels in the collapsed position and as you can see the springs give it the tension.I'll try to do a video on the movement of the wheel kit but will need the kids to help me with the posting.I would tend to say that Toro had more problems with customers not being able to maintain these things than it was worth or perhaps the electric option was born at that time and figured it was a much more consumer friendly way to go.

borat


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #27   Dec 7, 2010 2:33 pm
"Select the text you want to link the http path to.  At the toolbar, select the Insert/Edit Link button.  A dialog box will appear, paste your link into the URL form, then press the OK button.

Right mouse click on the underlined link that was created and select Edit Link.  You will see the same dialog box again, but this time, the URL box will have some jibberish such as "javascript *(*&* "  .   Recopy the link into that box again and hit OK. "



Thanks for the instructions but I'm still having problems.  I hit a brick wall at:  " Right mouse click on the underlined link that was created and select Edit Link."

 I can past the link into the field but I don't get an underlined link and I don't get a drop down menu with an "edit link" option.  All I get is the Firefox "Edit" drop down menu.    This is the only site that I have this kind of problem with.
aa335


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #28   Dec 7, 2010 2:42 pm
I'm currently on a PC now so things may not be exactly the same on the Mac as I described.  I'll try it later with the Mac and walk you through it.   
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Shryp


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #29   Dec 7, 2010 3:13 pm
I tried all kinds of things to get links working and never was able to.

About a week later I simply pasted a link as text into a post and it showed as a hyperlink.
Now they quit doing it again.

Pictures seem the same way, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
borat


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #30   Dec 7, 2010 4:12 pm
Yeah.... Inconsistency is a major p.i.t.a.  That's for sure. 

I don't have problems with images,  just links.


For those who like two strokes, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaL4m0quPIA&feature=related

Not much snow being moved but something to see nonetheless.
This message was modified Dec 7, 2010 by borat
hirschallan


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Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #31   Dec 7, 2010 6:34 pm
Borat, If you can be so kind to send me a pic of the gas cap from your machine (inside view). I have a feeling I'm missing the inside portion of it and it leaks. It just doesn't look right to me. Thanks,Allan

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