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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Honda bucket repair
Original Message   Nov 14, 2010 7:04 pm
   New to the stable is a wounded HS828.  The base, drive, gearbox, augers and controls are fine.  The bucket is in horrible shape.   I think the open part is not just from rust but from stones rubbing.  The edges are pointing out like stones and snow were forced out bending the edges away from the housing.  It seems the thing was used way after the tear started.  The bottom edge of the bucket is in bad shape also i.e. chewed off.  The guy must have used it in the weight forward position on a gravel drive or uneven cement stones. ??  Surprising is the bottom of the sides are in good shape. 

A new bucket lists at $860 so that's out.  I paid half of what the GX240 is worth.  How can the bucket be fixed?   Rivet a circular plate in there?  Cut out 1/2 inch back from the open parts say a long 2-3 inche wide section the length of the worn through part and have a piece welded in?  I can probably come up with an old bucket I could cut to make a filler strip.  What's the way to go about this?  I don't have a welder and don't know anything about welding or riveting.  The metal on either side of the tear is strong and could be welded.   Is there any new miracle product like improved fiberglass that would hold and wear?

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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #17   Dec 4, 2010 8:52 pm
Borat: can you please squish the photo to 700 or 750 so it does not blow out the formatting?

The 1694985 is the factory ID for your machine.  If you wanted and exploded view you would need that number.

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #18   Dec 4, 2010 9:45 pm
The picture I posted was compressed by using photobucket for the purpose of attaching it to messages in forums such as this. 

Picture looks good on my computer. 
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #19   Dec 5, 2010 7:58 am
The issue is being able to read the forum posts $#%*fortably.  A large picture will blow out the forum posts such that the lines of text in posts go off the viewing screen of a standard monitor.   The scroll bar will then come up because of the large width of the all the posts caused by the big picture.   To read a line of text you have to use the scroll bar to read the front and last segments of lines of text.  It's a pain in the neck to have to go back and forth with the scroll bar to read many long posts.   A viewable cropped picture will carry the same info and not blow out the forum standard size of posts.

There is size refering to density or resolution generally refering to the pixel count.  There is size refering to boarder length and width.  Your picture was 1023 x 766, the length and width in pixels and 247KB the total size in bytes.  Those are the two different "sizes". 

You can reduce the density and still have a crisp picture.  That's because home monitors can't display great resolution.  Home software just discards most of the pixels and displays what it can.  The pictures still look very crisp at the reduced pixel count.

You can reduce the lengh and width and keep or reduce the density but the image seen will most often be very good.  If you reduce the length and width of a picture to about 700 or 750 it will show up very well on the forum standard format and not blow out the size to be off the screen and cause the scroll bars to show up. 

Below are your pictures at 700 and cropped.  The first is also reduced from 240KB to 35KB and the second 24KB.  Both pictures are reduced in length and width and also density.  There's no great loss in quality on a home monitor.

If you reformat your picture to 7-800 the readable foum format will return.

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Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #20   Dec 15, 2010 10:02 pm
Someone else just posted this elsewhere:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HONDA-HS928-SNOWBLOWER-REPLACEMENT-GEAR-BOX-AUGER-SHUTE-/130466233439?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6064bc5f#ht_500wt_1156
jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #21   Dec 15, 2010 11:28 pm
Holy smokes the whole blower and chute off a 928 starting at $99.00 dollars.  That's well over $1000.00  worth of parts.

trouts2 - If you thinking about lining your impeller housing with a new piece of steel. 
I can tell you from my experience that you really need to take the steel to any sheet metal or machine shop and have them roll it for you.
It's a much better, and easier way  to get a correct and true fit having it rolled first.  The piece will also be a pretty close to being perfectly round.

Measure the dia. of the housing as close as you can. Multiply that figure X 3.14 and then add about an additional 10 inches. Cut the steel to that length.
Sometimes as the piece first goes into the machine and contacts the rollers it creates kind of a funky little bend in the steel. 
You'll have to cut that portion off if that happens that is why you add some extra length to the piece.

 Have them roll it to a dia just a little larger than your measurement.  That way when you go to put it in  you'll have to coil it
up just a little to get it in the opening. But it will then kind of expand to the size of the impeller housing and hold itself in place.
Depending on the thickness of the steel that your using. Remember or consider that your measurement is going to be the OD
of the piece that you have rolled. The guy doing the rolling should be able to help you with that.
bmwe0692


"Have a great and glorious day"

Location: Iowa
Joined: Dec 4, 2004
Points: 79

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #22   Dec 16, 2010 1:21 pm
Trouts2:
Could you drill some holes in the good metal all the way around both side of the rusty break. Install your "liner",
making sure the impeller fits tight as to hold the liner out to the inner side of the tube. The liner will be some-what round and then weld the liner thru the holes to the good metal of the tube. The impeller vanes then could be ground to fit your liner,thus making a smaller gap between vanes and liner.
Just my nickel(cost of inflation)
T.J.
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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #23   Jan 4, 2011 7:04 pm
It's my first rivet job so not the best but it's functional.  There's enough strength that it could be used as is but I'm not sure how long the rivets would last.  I think they would last quite a while, possibly several seasons. 

The insert is flat and round enough that there is plenty of room for the impeller and enough room left to benefit from using a Clarances type mod.  I'm looking for farm belt. 

It's in there well enough that it can be welded.  Went over to the Honda dealer for parts and mentioned the fix.  He said bring it over and he'd welded it.  Cool, the Hundred Dollar Honda will rise again.  Got it soaking with rust neutralizer after an initial wire brushing so after welding it'll get painted.  Not sure what to do with the outside through, it's pretty nasty with lots of jagged edges.   

Once cranking this will be a candidate to challange an Ariens 1028 that disgraced the 1132.

View before finished.  The bulge was worked flat with a rubber hammer and reveted.

Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #24   Jan 4, 2011 10:27 pm
Looking at this picture, it looks like the small piece is riveted on top of the larger piece.



Going by the way the impeller turns, you should have put the smaller piece under the larger piece.

Also, maybe add another piece to the top and bend it into the hole?

I can't help but think you will get snow getting pushed up under the sheets unless he is going to weld the seams shut.
Knee_Biter


Wicked Pissa

Location: just outside of BOSTON
Joined: Dec 14, 2008
Points: 147

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #25   Jan 4, 2011 10:35 pm
On the outside I would use POR patch.  POR15.COM  good stuff.

edgenet


If you enjoy doing it, It's not work

Location: Toronto
Joined: Nov 27, 2010
Points: 84

Re: Honda bucket repair
Reply #26   Jan 5, 2011 5:09 am
This is a bit to late for this blower. I tell everyone  " At the end of the season spray the Auger down with a hose let it dry for a day or so and then spray it down with a good rust preventive oil and that should keep the rust away. I find the powder coated units rust like crazy.

If you are getting paid for what you are doing No matter how much you Enjoy it,   It's a Job
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