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Electrocutor


Joined: Nov 7, 2010
Points: 14

Small Engine Fuel
Original Message   Nov 9, 2010 9:53 am
So now that Amoco Ultimate no longer exists, and all gases have 10% ethanol in them, and most all gases have large amounts of Nitrogen-based or other detergeants, what is the best fuel to be running in small engines? All of the gas companies have gone to skimping on the quality of gas in order to help improve their margins, but I'm sure that some above others have better or worse chemical make-up for use in small engines. I understand that some of this has to be based on speculation because the gas companies do not release any information on what chemicals they add to the gas; they only say "it's better".

Personal Experience: when I used Amoco Regular in my Pontiac Bonneville '98, my gas mileage was about 6 mi/gal higher than when they switched to BP Invigorate Regular.

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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Small Engine Fuel
Reply #4   Nov 10, 2010 1:00 am
Electrocutor wrote:

You guys say there is no difference in gas, just get fresh stuff, but every test and mechanic in the nation that I am reading says otherwise. So what forum should I go to for a more informed answer?



You already read "every tests and mechanic in the nation", aren't you already very informed?  Seems like you should be giving out the answers to the folks here, instead of go looking for more answers.  Right?

Spend a few hours compiile data, then come back and let us know what is that more informed answer?  Maybe start a lobby against bad gas and E15.
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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Small Engine Fuel
Reply #5   Nov 10, 2010 8:25 am
David -

The difference in MPG may be due to MTBE vs Ethanol gas. There is less energy content in Ethanol. However, 6 extra miles per gallon is WAY TOO HUGE of a stretch between any brand....

U do realize that the higher the octane the higher the resistence to detonation. If the engine calls for 87, than anything more than 87 is non beneficial. It's JUST gas. The engine if maintained will probably outlast considerable other components in the OPE itself.

Which is better. Charmin or Cottenelle.
IT'S JUST GAS.........
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Small Engine Fuel
Reply #6   Nov 10, 2010 12:41 pm
chefwong wrote:

The difference in MPG may be due to MTBE vs Ethanol gas. There is less energy content in Ethanol. However, 6 extra miles per gallon is WAY TOO HUGE of a stretch between any brand....


The only way I'm going to get 6+ miles more per gallon is to drive the car like a grandma and stay off boost.    29 MPG highway at 75 mph, 15-24 MPG city.
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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Small Engine Fuel
Reply #7   Nov 10, 2010 12:54 pm
I was told (no, I do not have a reference, appreciate it if anyone has one either way) that the 10% ethanol sticker means UP TO 10%, that the gas company can lower the amount based on availability. With the way corn prices jumped, I would not be surprised if it was less.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
Electrocutor


Joined: Nov 7, 2010
Points: 14

Re: Small Engine Fuel
Reply #8   Nov 15, 2010 4:39 pm
Bill_H wrote:
I was told (no, I do not have a reference, appreciate it if anyone has one either way) that the 10% ethanol sticker means UP TO 10%, that the gas company can lower the amount based on availability. With the way corn prices jumped, I would not be surprised if it was less.


Ethanol

[edit] United States

In the United States, ethanol is sometimes added to gasoline but sold without an indication that it is a component.

In several states, ethanol is added by law to a minimum level which is currently 5.9%. Most fuel pumps display a sticker stating that the fuel may contain up to 10% ethanol, an intentional disparity which allows the minimum level to be raised over time without requiring modification of the literature/labelling. The bill[citation needed] which was being debated at the time the disclosure of the presence of ethanol in the fuel was mandated has recently passed.

Last month, the maximum was raised to 15%.

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