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slinger


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Super Trapp Quiet Mufflers: Do they work?
Original Message   Oct 24, 2010 1:40 pm
Has anyone used these or know anything about them?  I would welcome any device that reduces the loudness of a small engine exhaust as long as it is not detrimental to the performance of the engine.

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longboat


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Re: Super Trapp Quiet Mufflers: Do they work?
Reply #7   Oct 27, 2010 8:45 am
Just a thought...  with automotive engines, you can tune the exhaust to maximize engine performance and efficiency within certain rpm ranges.  For example, short pipes would give you lots of noise with high HP, but long pipes would give you a lot less noise and more torque (and HP at lower rpms).  I wonder if anyone has figured out what length pipe would give a B&S (or Tecumseh, or Subaru, Honda, etc.) engine maximum torque at 3300rpm?  Before you say that the mfr. engineers have probably already done this, I would wager that they have not, since they are trying to produce these engines to meet a price point, not for maximum performance at a given rpm.  These same engines are used in lawn mowers, generators, pressure washers, etc. all at different rpms - doubt they would put much R&D into tweaking extra performance for a specified rpm.

With that being said, maybe go-cart racers would have some knowledge on exhaust tuning.  They are always trying to tweak every last bit of performance from their engines - maybe one can derive a formula from using empirical information about different lengths of exhaust pipe on these little engines. 

What I'm getting at is, if you have room on your snowblower, what if you could add an extra 12 inches of exhaust pipe and get a couple more ft-lbs torque at 3300rpm, which will in turn allow the machine to blow snow farther and more consistently with less plugging?  Thoughts?

friiy


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Re: Super Trapp Quiet Mufflers: Do they work?
Reply #8   Oct 27, 2010 10:51 am
The exaust tuning book I read years back was mostly about 2 cycle bikes,   and had some good info... Not much on 4 stroke.......

     The big thing on 2 scycle motors is the pressure wave reflecting back off the expansion chamber (i think it was called that)...  and hitting the exaust port of the motor at a specific RPM to help seal the lower end and piston rings from scavengening.....

Friiy...

longboat


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Re: Super Trapp Quiet Mufflers: Do they work?
Reply #9   Nov 1, 2010 11:12 am
It works the same with four-stroke engines.  By tuning the length of the exhaust pipe, you can get the pulses to scavenge, or suck, the exhaust gases from the cylinder(s), but only at a specified rpm.  If we could fine-tune the exhaust to 3300rpm, you might get enough extra oomph out of your snowblower to help it throw further consistently, keep it from plugging in wet heavy snows, etc.  Anyway, just a though...
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