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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Toro Single Stage has a new competition.
Original Message   Oct 12, 2010 1:41 pm
Briggs and Stratton was not going let time stand still and let Toro have all the limelight.

http://www.simplicitymfg.com/products/snow-throwers/compact-single-stage/

Looks like the offspring of the venerable Toro 2450/3650/221/421 auger paddles, the Honda HS621 bucket and chassis, and the handle/console design of the Honda HRX mowers.

And you can get it with a headlight, a first of its kind for a single stage snowblower.  :)



Also available in the Snapper appearance package. 

http://www.snapper.com/products/snow-throwers/compact-single-stage/

And maybe a John Deere appearance package will be available in a year or two later, with Deere's usual icing on top .

Looking good.  Can't wait to check out this thing in person.
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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: Toro Single Stage has got a new competition.
Reply #4   Oct 12, 2010 3:31 pm
At 3600rpm each ft-lb of torque is 0.6845 hp, roughly 2/3hp per ft-lb of torque.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro Single Stage has got a new competition.
Reply #5   Oct 12, 2010 3:55 pm
Well, based on that formula, the B&S Snow Series 800/900 engine on that snowblower is rated for 5.5 hp and 6.2 hp, respectively.  Reasonable for a 205cc engine.
kellyinkc


Joined: Oct 8, 2010
Points: 74

Re: Toro Single Stage has got a new competition.
Reply #6   Oct 12, 2010 5:26 pm
Uh oh! Now a wrench in the works. I like the looks of this thing!! Now to decide this or the Toro! Too many toys and not enough money.......
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro Single Stage has got a new competition.
Reply #7   Oct 12, 2010 6:05 pm
Well, you can consider that the Toro is a proven incumbent versus a new design that just came out this year, that must have some weight in your decision.

I love competition.  Consumers win.
kellyinkc


Joined: Oct 8, 2010
Points: 74

Re: Toro Single Stage has got a new competition.
Reply #8   Oct 12, 2010 6:42 pm
True, I discussed this with the better half. Its kind of like buying a car in the first production year. May not be wise.
Besides I can't find a dealer who has this thing. They have the mowers but not the snow blowers.
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Toro Single Stage has got a new competition.
Reply #9   Oct 12, 2010 8:03 pm
kellyinkc wrote:
Uh oh! Now a wrench in the works. I like the looks of this thing!! Now to decide this or the Toro! Too many toys and not enough money.......

kellyinkc: You gotta go for this thing and provide some feedback. Looks like a sweet piece of OPE and it's got a halogen light and chute controller as well! Seriously though, it does look like a serious machine and capable of clearing some snow. Not sure we'll know how well or not it performs until sometime this winter after a few good storms.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro Single Stage has got a new competition.
Reply #10   Oct 12, 2010 10:54 pm
I am interested to see how that 4-stroke engine performs relative to the Toro Rtek 2 stroke engine. Whether the balance and maneuverability beats the nimble Toro 2450, slush handling exceeding that of the aging but legendary Honda HS621, and that chute rotation mechanism works as slick as the Toro 221Q.

If anything, those are the benchmarks I see B&S should have targeted.
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superbuick


Joined: Feb 23, 2009
Points: 138

Re: Toro Single Stage has a new competition.
Reply #11   Oct 13, 2010 9:30 am
It looks really promising - the auger design seems to be "Correct" in the vein of the Toros. Its a shame they put those 4 strokes in there and not the R*Tek, which Briggs owns/makes anyways. Oh well. Good to at least have some attention on the single stage front!
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro Single Stage has a new competition.
Reply #12   Oct 13, 2010 9:58 am
Isn't Toro and Troy-Bilt  the only brands that still has 2 stroke powered snowblower?  Not sure how they can keep making them in light of EPA mandates.
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mml4


Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!


Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Points: 544

Re: Toro Single Stage has a new competition.
Reply #13   Oct 13, 2010 10:09 am
superbuick wrote:
It looks really promising - the auger design seems to be "Correct" in the vein of the Toros. Its a shame they put those 4 strokes in there and not the R*Tek, which Briggs owns/makes anyways. Oh well. Good to at least have some attention on the single stage front!


Completely agree about the 2 stroke issue.

Marc

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