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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
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Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Original Message   Oct 7, 2010 11:17 pm
Ariens mounts there motors behind the axle, moving weight of the scoop. It definitely makes it easy to handle; so far, it is the only 30" that doesn't scare my wife. However, not scaring my wife isn't the main criteria.

If the weight is on the nose it resists riding up. If the weight in on the rear wheels it aids traction. Going uphill, additional weight transfers to the wheels. Going downhill, it transfers to the scoop. Although that may or may not be significant.

So which is better? The most bias to the wheels as possible?

As a side bar, several snow blowers have optional weights to go on the scoop. These typically are on the top, a bit forward of the skid shoe. And rather small, 10#. More like an offset for a cab. Is higher overall weight better? Is it better to have 80# on the nose and 170# on the wheels or 150# on the nose and 170# on the wheels?

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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #21   Oct 11, 2010 11:56 am
The answer is, do you want to move snow or spend lots of intimate time with your snow blower?
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #22   Oct 11, 2010 3:08 pm
aa335 wrote:
I applaud him for  "pioneering" spirit and relentless devotion to eradicate mis-information and propaganda on this forum to set us straight. 

And not to mention the relentless drive to point out the "not-so-obvious" things that most of us just say "who cares" or "what's the f*&* difference?"


Most of us don't give a damn about most of these inane ramblings of his since they serve no purpose other that to boost up his post count.
This message was modified Oct 11, 2010 by Steve_Cebu


"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #23   Oct 11, 2010 3:11 pm
DavidNJ wrote:
The answer is, do you want to move snow or spend lots of intimate time with your snow blower?


Well it's apparant from sucha strong Democrat and Obama lover such as yourself that you'd rather work out irrelevant figures on napkins and annoy most people with useless info than actually blow any snow. It seems to me that all you want to blow is Hot Air! Perhaps you should forget snowblowers and take up hot air ballooning or politics.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #24   Oct 11, 2010 3:13 pm
Steve_Cebu wrote:
Most of us don't give a damn about most of these inane ramblings of his since they serve no purpose other that to boost up his post count.

You should really tell us what you think.  :)
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #25   Oct 11, 2010 3:44 pm
DavidNJ wrote:
The answer is, do you want to move snow or spend lots of intimate time with your snow blower?

You should ask yourself the same question....

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #26   Oct 11, 2010 4:50 pm
FrankMA wrote:
You should ask yourself the same question....


I think DavidNJ spends too much intimate time with his snowblower. :)

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #27   Oct 11, 2010 5:05 pm
Will it still respects him in the morning?  Is he a blower man or tractor man?
This message was modified Oct 11, 2010 by aa335
DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #28   Oct 11, 2010 6:38 pm
The issue may not be nose weigh as much as handle bar design. On a 24" Husqvarna Crown, 50#, I could sink my weight into the handlebar grips without lifting the nose; on a Toro 28" the nose flew off the ground. If that is the case, the advantage would go so some BASCO models (Deere, Simplicity, Snapper) and Husqvarna.
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #29   Oct 12, 2010 4:39 am
Time for a recap!

OK, the John Deere machine is bad because there is not enough leverage at the handlebars to pick the scoop up and turn.

The Toro is great because it is effortless to pick up and turn.

The Husqvarna Crown is great because he can put his full weight on the handles without the front coming off the ground.

The Toro sucks because any little bit of pressure on the handles cause the front to come off the ground super easy.

OK, where were we?
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Should the Weight Be on the Wheels or the Scoop?
Reply #30   Oct 12, 2010 5:41 am
Shryp wrote:
Time for a recap!

OK, the John Deere machine is bad because there is not enough leverage at the handlebars to pick the scoop up and turn.

The Toro is great because it is effortless to pick up and turn.

The Husqvarna Crown is great because he can put his full weight on the handles without the front coming off the ground.

The Toro sucks because any little bit of pressure on the handles cause the front to come off the ground super easy.

OK, where were we?

You forgot to mention (incessantly) that anything Honda is terrible and overpriced.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
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