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im45us


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Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Original Message   Oct 9, 2010 2:15 pm
I am looking for a new blower. I have about 1400.00 to spend . I am looking at the 2 machines listed above. I had an Ariens 824 for 28 years but have never had a Toro. I prefer the Toro dealer but both dealers are ok. Any Ideas on which is a better choice or other suggestions ?

Thanks Ivan

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im45us


Joined: Dec 10, 2004
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Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #20   Oct 11, 2010 7:28 am
Looked at the Simplicity L1428E and it looks very good . Two questions. 1. chute rotation is electric and I like to keep it simple. I know that Simplicity makes a great machine but will this be something I am always fixing?  2. How important is the dealer if you are really buying a great machine. My 28 year old Ariens that I just sold was in a repair shop one time. My local Simplicity dealer only sells the signature pro models and not the other models so I will have to travel about 1 hour away for a dealer. I might as well go to New Hamshire to avoid the sales tax if I am traveling that far.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #21   Oct 11, 2010 7:52 am
DavidNJ wrote:
Home Depot sells (and for that matter stocks) the same units as the dealers. That 726 is $1000 at Home Depot, which sells, but doesn't stock, the full Toro and Ariens line. Which, BTW, is the same as the Ariens and Toro dealer here. The Simplicity/Deere dealer has the full line on display. Below are the 726OE and 826OXE. Point out the differences.

Steve, have you considered thinking before typing?



It's obvious you don't think at all, unless it's anal retentive BS and yeah I can tell the differences since I have the 1028OXE which is one up from the 828 which is on the right.

You can clearly see the dual trigger controls on the rear of the handlebars and the bucket is slightly taller and wider.

You know only what you read you have no practical experience with any of these models.

Stop being a Drongo, if that's even possible for you.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #22   Oct 11, 2010 11:57 am
That is about the features, but not about the design. Both have idential scoop designs.

You definitely sound like someone who bought the fully loaded MTD for Sears or Lowes.

Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #23   Oct 11, 2010 3:14 pm
DavidNJ wrote:
That is about the features, but not about the design. Both have idential scoop designs.

You definitely sound like someone who bought the fully loaded MTD for Sears or Lowes.



Since I have videos of my wife and I using the Toro 1028OXE on YouTube, clearly you are a half wit.

You are also the one who bought an MTD and will likely buy another after you have satiated your OCD in this forum.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
DavidNJ


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Points: 206

Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #24   Oct 11, 2010 6:41 pm
Good luck with your Toro. Just saw a Husqvarna Crown at a Husqvarna/Toro dealer. the Toro looks and feels like Pinto compared to the Husqvarna Crown's Mercedes. Of course, the Toro was more expensive.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
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Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #25   Oct 11, 2010 7:49 pm
DavidNJ wrote:
Good luck with your Toro. Just saw a Husqvarna Crown at a Husqvarna/Toro dealer. the Toro looks and feels like Pinto compared to the Husqvarna Crown's Mercedes. Of course, the Toro was more expensive.



Keep on dreaming, no way you will spend any real money on a snowblower. You'll buy at Home Depot or Sears for certain. All talk, no action.

Oh wait maybe you'll buy one at Walmart. Either way you'll end up with something that is less efficient than a motivated 12 year old with a shovel.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #26   Oct 11, 2010 9:09 pm
This is the Toro impeller. It is the only impeller where the manufacturer thought it was so weak it needed a thin stamped reinforcement:

This is the scoop on a 24" Husqvarna Crown:

Note the reinforcing bar on top, the stiffening beads all over. The thickness is even visible in this picture. It appears to be the stiffest I've seen, although I haven't compared it back to back with the Simplicity Large Frame or Pro. The auger design is 'different', and I haven't figured it out.  The handlebar geometry is the best I'be found so far. I can put my hands on the grip and press down with my weight (Must have been over 100# of force) and the scoop stays on the ground. Pulling back on the handles raises the scoop. The key is force down on the grips pushes through the axle not around it.

The console is also well laid out. The cable chute rotation is a bit ununsual, but the control is precise and easy to manage. Only the Simplicity/Deere/Snapper electric controls are easier.

By contrast the Toro looks like it should be sold at Toys-R-Us, which probably explains why Steve is comfortable with it.

This message was modified Oct 11, 2010 by DavidNJ
Steve_Cebu


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Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #27   Oct 12, 2010 1:33 am
Yeah ok, whatever, you are real good at posting pics. Let's see some pics of you blowing snow with whatever new machine you will supposedly buy.

I don't see any pics of you blowing snow, just blowing hot air.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #28   Oct 12, 2010 4:19 am
DavidNJ wrote:
This is the Toro impeller. It is the only impeller where the manufacturer thought it was so weak it needed a thin stamped reinforcement:

Yea, I am not so sure I would want to buy a snowblower that the manufacturer decided to reinforce the load bearing parts of either.

Lets get one of the plastic impellers, those are much better.
This message was modified Oct 12, 2010 by Shryp
DavidNJ


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Re: Ariens 24" Platinum or Toro 826 oxe or ?
Reply #29   Oct 12, 2010 9:48 am
Shryp wrote:
Yea, I am not so sure I would want to buy a snowblower that the manufacturer decided to reinforce the load bearing parts of either.

Lets get one of the plastic impellers, those are much better.

Reminds me of the days when US auto manufacturers hung crude weights off of transmissions to counter driveline vibrations rather than have tigher production tolerances that balanced the assembly in the first place.
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