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WoodyWW


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New Honda, or Toro, self propelled mower? HRR216VXA? 20333?
Original Message   Mar 9, 2010 2:27 pm
I'm looking at self propelled mowers $400 to $500 or so, for my 1/3 to 1/2 acre yard. The yard is kind of "rough"; different levels, hilly areas, some depressions or holes, ruts, etc. (I'm trying to fill those in).  I want BBC; I don't want to have to  restart the mower every time I have to remove some tree debris or go in for a drink of water. I'd also like elec. start, for my aging back, but it gets expensive to have both elec. start & BBC. I've had 2 Hondas, with pretty excellent results, but have decided to replace my 14 y.o. Honda rather than get it fixed.

My choices: Honda Model HRR216VXA Honda 21 In. Steel, Variable Speed Smart Drive with BBC 4 IN 1 Capable $499.

Model 20333 Toro BBC Personal Pace Walk Power Mower $399

Model 20334 Toro Personal Pace Electric Start Walk Power Mower NO BBC $399. I'd have to give up the BBC for elec. start.

I'm pretty much looking at what Home Depot has, & they have free shipping now for awhile. Any advice? TIA!
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: New Honda, or Toro, self propelled mower? HRR216VXA? 20333?
Reply #8   Mar 12, 2010 5:48 pm
I wouldn't go to the dealer that charges over MSRP, that's just not right.  Unless that's out the door price including tax and delivery.  No $20 setup charge for me please.  I will gladly take it out of the box, unfold the handle, and pour motor oil.
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snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
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Re: New Honda, or Toro, self propelled mower? HRR216VXA? 20333?
Reply #9   Mar 13, 2010 2:30 pm
aa335 wrote:
I am impartial to cast aluminum decks since they don't rust and do dampen noise and vibrations from the mower blades/grass better than stamped steel or plastic decks.  The shocks and impacts when going over rough terrain feels less jarring through the handle bar.  Something to consider if you are particular about operator comfort.

Is there any reason why you have to buy mower only from Home Depot?  How about Toro Super Recycler models from Ace Hardware or independent dealers.


How do you feel about the long term reliability of the plastic decks on the higher end Honda's? I was drawn to the lifetime deck warranty and elimination of rust issues when I bought my HRX217HMA. Thanks! EDIT: Looks like they increased base warranty on the HRX to 5 years and now have a promo for one additional year for 6 years total. http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/promotions/specialoffers.aspx?pc=lm1 When I bought mine it was 3 years and I was given a free additional year for 4 years coverage.
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aa335


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Re: New Honda, or Toro, self propelled mower? HRR216VXA? 20333?
Reply #10   Mar 13, 2010 2:48 pm
I'm confident that the plastic deck are fine for long term durability.  The only concern is that if the plastic is left outside and exposed to sunlight, the UV radiation will make the material brittle.
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: New Honda, or Toro, self propelled mower? HRR216VXA? 20333?
Reply #11   Mar 13, 2010 3:01 pm
aa335 wrote:
I'm confident that the plastic deck are fine for long term durability.  The only concern is that if the plastic is left outside and exposed to sunlight, the UV radiation will make the material brittle.


I could see that. Mine sits in garage so no worries there.

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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Re: New Honda, or Toro, self propelled mower? HRR216VXA? 20333?
Reply #12   Jan 22, 2011 9:11 pm
I really wonder how many people really leave their expansive OPE outside exposed to the elements including thieves.  This winter has been a snowy one for MN so people who are leaving their snowblowers are finding them gone next morning.  So exposing OPE to outside element is not likely.  I really doubt rubinew would leave his Yamaha Dream Machine outside for a second unsupervised. Blowing snow is nice but mowing green grass and smelling it afterwards with a lager beer is even sweeter.
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Re: New Honda, or Toro, self propelled mower? HRR216VXA? 20333?
Reply #13   Jan 22, 2011 10:07 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
I really wonder how many people really leave their expansive OPE outside exposed to the elements including thieves.  This winter has been a snowy one for MN so people who are leaving their snowblowers are finding them gone next morning.  So exposing OPE to outside element is not likely.  I really doubt rubinew would leave his Yamaha Dream Machine outside for a second unsupervised. Blowing snow is nice but mowing green grass and smelling it afterwards with a lager beer is even sweeter.



Just happened to see my name, and you are correct, no unsupervised visits

While I live on a hill, in a fairly safe area, I still put all my equipment inside when not in use.

Stealing aside, there are kids, who might want to play, the elements, etc.

Even in my old house, I bought one of those cheap 10 by 10 aluminum sheds, just to park stuff in.

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