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mikiewest


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who sets impeller speed??
Original Message   Jan 8, 2010 5:59 pm
husqvarna higher end snowblowers have a high speed impeller.Honda impellers rotate at a higher rpm compared to toro,ariens simplicity etc.Is this just a company decision ?Are there reasons why an Ariens or Simp dont set their rpms higher?
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snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #20   Jan 9, 2010 4:24 pm
mml4 wrote:
That says it all-The ability to throw great distances is not desirable where houses are set close together or in urban settings like New York City where the Sanitation Dept. will give you a Summons for blowing snow into the street.

 In addition you can't get something for nothing. If you adjust the size ratio of the pulley system to increase the rpm of the fan then under load you are going to need more HP to take advantage of the distance potential of the new pulley size. If they achieve a 30% increase with the same HP engine the unit must be over designed  to begin with. I wonder what happens when you hit the EOD with the high speed set up. If the available hp  is now being used to achieve high fan speed I don't think the end of driveway performance in plow packed conditions would be as good.  

Marc



Last year when I was blowing 2-3 feet it seemed liked engine still had more to give. Of course pushing it beyond designed limits may make something else break. I only use this thrower 6-12 times during winter so hopefully it won't cut into longevity too bad. I'm a stickler for looking over my equipment after each use though.

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aa335


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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #21   Jan 9, 2010 4:49 pm
snowmachine wrote:
I figure if I could get it to throw further and he asked I would tell him it was stock :-) :-)

Does this guy live in your neighborhood?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHNLbAW6j7k


Yes of course it's stock.  He had his snowblower in valet mode and using winter gas.  Still breaking in his engine with dino oil.  Plus, the deflector was stuck.  :)
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aa335


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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #22   Jan 9, 2010 4:53 pm
snowmachine wrote:
Last year when I was blowing 2-3 feet it seemed liked engine still had more to give. Of course pushing it beyond designed limits may make something else break. I only use this thrower 6-12 times during winter so hopefully it won't cut into longevity too bad. I'm a stickler for looking over my equipment after each use though.

Nothing wrong with modding as long as you know what you're doing.  Having spare parts around also helps too.

No stickers please.  I know they add horsepower, but $2 for 3 HP gain just isn't fair.  I had to spend $750 just for an extra 4 HP. 
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aa335


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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #23   Jan 9, 2010 5:06 pm
Knee_Biter wrote:
At least you are ok that it is all in fun

I feel a group hug is in order.  Can we sing kumbaya?
GtWtNorth


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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #24   Jan 9, 2010 5:10 pm
I've been reading a lot about this subject here & would like to add my 2 cents. Since I am only a second year user, I am concentrating on understanding how to use my MTD 8-24 machine and it's limits. I have already re-powered up from 5 to 8 hp but I'm still not happy with the distance in general & specially for EOD. I have to take small slices to ensure it doesn't choke itself & bog right down. I have been considering impeller design among other thing as a cause. I noticed that my impeller has a large hook or hockey stick at the leading edge of the impeller (see photo). I postulate that this causes the machine to pull too much snow into the impeller too fast & helps cause the bogging.


If you look at some of the photos of other impellers a lot seem to have smaller hooks (except Simplicity). Also the better machines seem to  have heavier more substantial impellers in general. I'm thinking that like a car flywheel, the heavier impellers also help to keep up the speed of the impeller as you move through heavier or deeper snow.
Any thoughts?

left to right top, John Deere, Simplicity, Murray, Bottom: Toro, older Ariens, Craftsman ( they are all for 24 & 26" machines)



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snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #25   Jan 9, 2010 5:21 pm
aa335 wrote:
Does this guy live in your neighborhood?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHNLbAW6j7k


Yes of course it's stock.  He had his snowblower in valet mode and using winter gas.  Still breaking in his engine with dino oil.  Plus, the deflector was stuck.  :)


That video is awesome!!! They could be brothers.

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aa335


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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #26   Jan 9, 2010 5:24 pm
I'm thinking these hooks on the impeller do seems to gather snow better.  These hooks are beneficial for lighter snow.  However, for really dense heavy snow, this may have a negative effect.  I am thinking there's compaction of the snow which makes it more difficult for it to leave the blower housing.  Just a postulate and throwing out my thoughts for discussion.
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snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #27   Jan 9, 2010 5:27 pm
aa335 wrote:
Nothing wrong with modding as long as you know what you're doing.  Having spare parts around also helps too.

No stickers please.  I know they add horsepower, but $2 for 3 HP gain just isn't fair.  I had to spend $750 just for an extra 4 HP. 


Or even some cheap orange Krylon in an attempt to make it more of a Husky :-) I think I have 30 shear pins now and have yet to break one. 3 belts and two auger pulleys. Clay from the "John Deere 1130 SE" thread even sent me some of the spare parts he had. He had one of these units before he got the JD.

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